Had read those articles before. Wrote Linebaugh and got a personal reply wherein the slowest load was 8g w231 under a 260g lead bullet. Taffin also lists that load with a 255g lswc as very accurate out of his 25. I've not tried this in my 25 or my Uberti or Ruger. I did use it once out of a 10" tc on an Ohio deer. It also produced one hole groups at 25 yds. out of the tc which I no longer have. Big mistake!!!!!!