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Offline huntsman

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« on: November 10, 2003, 03:06:18 PM »
Took my second hog with a Swede mauser yesterday evening. 80 yards, broadside, 250# boar, 140gr PMC gameking, right behind the shoulder, pig makes no more tracks. Last year about the same size boar took a 139 gr PMC literally through the nose, throat, and boiler room at 20 yards, same result. The Swede is awesome! Can't wait to see what it will do to the 140-class buck I saw Saturday morning running a doe if I ever get him to stop long enough for a shot. But that will be another story.... 8)
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2003, 03:25:35 AM »
I'm very fond of my 6.5 also.  It penetrates very well and seems to kill things way better than the paper ballistics would indicate.  On paper it is about the same as a 30-30.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2003, 05:24:45 AM »
Lee D.
Just wondering what you use for game ammo in your Swede?  Are you handloading 139-140 grain soft-points or using commercial loads?  I would like to know who has used Sellier & Bellot 140 SP's, and if so, how well do they work for whitetail or other soft-skin game?  It's a great rifle, and great caliber....just concerned about the penetration with S&B 140gr.SP's.

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2003, 06:18:25 AM »
All the game has been with handloads. Either 129 gr. noslers(?) or 160gr Hornady.  Both work good but I settled on the 160's because I like a big bullet and my rifle likes them.  One thing the 6.5 does is penetrate so I would not be afraid to try the S&B load.  At the ranges I get to shoot game which is a max. of probably 120 yards I am not looking for a flat shooting high velocity round so the 160 is ok.  I don't load anything very heavy, I believe my chronograph says that the 160s are going about 2300fps but I have never had one stop inside of a game animal.
One time I bounced a bullet off a rock before it hit a bear(seond shot) and I could just about cover the enty wound with my hat.  That bullet may have stayed in but I didn't find it.  Had to throw away both front shoulders.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2003, 02:34:30 AM »
Lee D.:

There are some subtle differences on paper and a couple that are not on paper that help explain the better penetration of the 6.5 compared with the .30-30. First of all, the listed energy for most commercial rounds in the 6.5 have in the neighborhood of 150-200 ft-lbs more energy than the .30-30. While these figures are theoretical, they do reflect the comparative physics involved. That's not a huge difference, but enough to notice on game.

Secondly, it must be remembered that the bullet diameter is markedly different, and thus the way energy is expended will also differ accordingly. The relatively fat, short, and thick .30-30 bullet will spread its energy out more laterally upon impact, whereas the relatively long, narrow 6.5 bullet will tend to penetrate farther and spread energy more horizontally in the direction of the bullet path. This creates the better penetration and in many cases the deeper destructive effect of the 6.5.

Lastly, it should be noted that although energy is similar, bullet velocity is quite a bit faster in the 6.5, which, coupled with the much greater sectional density of the bullet explained above, also contributes to both the penetrating ability and destructive shock value of the 6.5 in an adequately expanding bullet.

One of the reasons I settled on the 6.5 was because it seemed to offer the best compromise between the high velocity school of thought and the big bore school of thought; a medium-diameter big-game cartridge with enough velocity to perform well on most medium to large game animals. All this without the excessive blast and kick of the overkill magnums and long-action calibers. So far it has proven very effective. :grin:
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