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The Final Coup...New Detention Bill
« on: March 12, 2010, 04:17:03 AM »
Building on the Patriot Act, Military Commisions Act, various executive orders...this new bill introduced by McCain would be the final blow to the BOR completely...US citizens to be no different than any other persons, alien or otherwise. You will be held anywhere on the planet with no notification of kin or legal rights indefinitely. This will be combined with the New Immigration Amensty Bill that will mandate electronic ID cards with finger print(s). This is all under the radar and cloaking of the HC reform boondaoggle.Welcome to 1984 and the nwo..fyi...its over............TM7



A Detention Bill You Ought to Read More Carefully
Mar 5 2010, 3:40 PM ET

Why is the national security community treating the "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010," introduced by Sens. John McCain and Joseph Lieberman on Thursday as a standard proposal, as a simple response to the administration's choices in the aftermath of the Christmas Day bombing attempt? A close reading of the bill suggests it would allow the U.S. military to detain U.S. citizens without trial indefinitely in the U.S. based on suspected activity. Read the bill here, and then read the summarized points after the jump.
According to the summary, the bill sets out a comprehensive policy for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected enemy belligerents who are believed to have engaged in hostilities against the United States by requiring these individuals to be held in military custody, interrogated for their intelligence value and not provided with a Miranda warning.

There is no distinction between U.S. persons--visa holders or citizens--and non-U.S. persons.

It would require these "belligerents" to be coded as "high-value detainee(s)" to be held in military custody and interrogated for their intelligence value by a High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team established by the president. The H.I.G., of course, was established to bring a sophisticated interrogation capacity to the federal justice system.


Any suspected unprivileged enemy belligerents considered a "high-value detainee" shall not be provided with a Miranda warning.

The bill asks the President to determine criteria for designating an individual as a 'high-value detainee' if he-she: (1) poses a threat of an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the U.S. or U.S. facilities abroad; (2) poses a threat to U.S. military personnel or U.S. military facilities; (3) potential intelligence value; (4) is a member of al Qaeda or a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda or (5) such other matters as the President considers appropriate. The President must submit the regulations and guidance to the appropriate committees of Congress no later than 60 days after enactment.

To the extent possible, the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team must make a preliminary determination whether the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent within 48 hours of taking detainee into custody.

Click link below for article and link to text of bill

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/03/a-detention-bill-you-ought-to-read-more-carefully/37116



BTW   I don't have an idea why the second half the post is lined out...!!. :-\




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Re: The Final Coup...New Detention Bill
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 06:49:30 AM »
BTW   I don't have an idea why the second half the post is lined out...!!. :-\

it was the "s" in  [ ]  that cause the strike font I fixed it with (s)

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Re: The Final Coup...New Detention Bill
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 07:36:38 AM »
Thanks TM7.

What is the H.I.G. ?

Any person can be held without trial or miranda indefinitely for makeing the statemunt "so and so aught to be shot". It is up to the "governing body" to decide, we have no right to a hearing with thier "decision that the person is a threat".

As I understand it, we have been under this rule since the first Homeland Security Laws passed with the "Oklahoma City Bombings". That is why so many cities and municipalities have ruled against the homeland security laws.

If the fed audit goes deep enough the congress might need to use "Homeland Security Laws" to control the discenting citizens that wan't to hang them, at least the outspoken trouble makeing leaders. "Nip it in the bud" as Barnie used to say.

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Re: The Final Coup...New Detention Bill
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 02:19:07 PM »
Yep, the jerks McCain and Lieberman have teamed up again to propose more really pukey legislation.  Last time the perps tried to ram draconian gun control down our throats. 

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Re: The Final Coup...New Detention Bill
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 02:25:22 PM »
The High-Value Interrogation Group is managed directly by the White House ... not DOD, or any other agency. Reports to an FBI appointee who reports to the National Security Council who reports to the President.

http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/nation/white-house-to-supervise-high-value-interrogation-group
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Re: The Final Coup...New Detention Bill
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 03:56:27 PM »
Pretty scary stuff when you take it to it's eventual conclusion   :o
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