Okay, I bought the 410. Out the door w/ Tax for $105. Because the barrel looked like the bluing was darker in some areas and lighter in others, they threw in a cold bluing kit for free. Later on this year I'll pick up a 12 ga smooth bore barrel to go with it. I see them go at a decent price from time to time here on graybeard. My son and I will have some fun plinking w/ it this spring/summer. I already have a handi in 270, and have an additional 20 ga rifled slug barrel to go with that one - Addicting, my wife is shaking her head. At least its a cheap habit. The only problem is that when you add up the cost for our land that we are buying up north for hunting, and keeping a cheap yamaha bike on the road it all adds up . . .