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45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:24:36 AM »
Well,

     I am going to get a 45-70 handi here in a day or so, my question is this : Has anyone tried the new Barnes Load Data for their 45-70 in regards to the 400 grain loads out to 2186 fps?  I have read that Barnes in the past has posted wrong data. 

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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 03:06:31 AM »
GLR,  no I haven't tried their data, but like any data, its advisable to start lower, and work your way up.

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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 03:34:32 AM »
I know, I'm just curious such as to the correct powder and such.  I see they are using AA1680.


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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 03:36:06 AM »
Email barnes. They are very good at getting back to you.
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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 05:34:28 AM »
Barnes' data is on their website, no need to email them, although Billy is correct on their communication, Ty Herring is an excellent resource.

I've shot the 300gr TSX-FB using the H4198 Ruger data in my SS Ultra Hunter.

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http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/45-70RugerNo1Web.pdf
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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2010, 09:35:03 AM »
Tim,

I see your nice group with the Barnes 300 grainers is 1 grain above min.  Did you work up to max.?  Curious how those bullets shot at max. velocity.  The 300 grain jacketed 45 70 bullets i have tried only group well with H4198 at charges in the 51 to 52 grn. range.

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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2010, 10:40:03 AM »
I have never found a max load that was accurate in any caliber i reload for.
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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 12:20:33 PM »
My loads were .002" off the lands at 2.768", 55gr was the top load I used, 54, and 55gr all looked about the same as 54.5gr, velocity didn't increase all that much.

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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 12:23:40 PM »
Tim,

.002 or .020 off the lands?  1 grain gave 25 FPS increase not really noticeable except maybe to your shoulder. :D

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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2010, 12:40:03 PM »
.002" as I stated, their recommended COL for the data is 2.770", but I was touching the lands at that COL, so mine my loads are just off the lands at 2.768".

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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2010, 04:30:10 PM »
10-4 Tim, just wanted to make sure.  I have been measuring a lot of 45/70 bullets, both jacketed and cast, the ones I have seem to have a fair amount of variation.  Enough difference to make me set back .025 minimum.  I haven't loaded or measured any of the Barnes offerings in this caliber which is why I asked. 

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Re: 45-70/Handi's/Barnes Load Data
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2010, 04:39:00 PM »
I use a Stoney Point(now Hornady) comparator to make sure all loads were the same COL.  ;)

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