Obama Finds Legal Way Around The 2nd Amendment And Uses It.

[kansasj]

I just received this in an e-mail.  I have not checked everything out but wanted to share it for everyone's review and consideration!

Obama Finds Legal Way Around The 2nd Amendment And Uses It.



Just got this..



On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States
On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary,  so will gun control.

Read the Article

U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. View The Full Article Here http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015 14 Nov. 2009
<http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015> Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed.  This is a very serious matter!

[nomosendero]

Don't know if this is the step he will take (havn't checked it out yet either), but I have felt for some time that he would use the UN for the gun control part of his plan. That's where his "citizen of the world" stuff fits in.

[wreckhog]

This came out roughly a year ago and was partly responsible for last year's gun price madness. Since then, nothing appears to have happened except for gun dealers buying new Porsches.

[nomosendero]

I think I will switch Gun Dealers, he has poor taste when it comes to cars!

[wreckhog]

My very popular gun dealer got a a yellow Lamborghini Gallardo and a red Porsche Turbo last year. Then again he gets $239 for a Moisin. Lucky for me, he thinks non Ruger singleshots  are crap and prices them appropriately.

[mauser98us]

All treaties have to go thru the Senate. The President can agree to anything. The Senate has to ratify. Don't think the senators have the stomach to pull that one off before the November elections. Especially since the american citizens had health care stuffed down their throats.

[Dee]

Everyone needs to relax and stop worrying about this law. Bush's Patriot Act has more than enough provisions in it to take your gun if necessary. It nulified ALL the Constitution, if they want it to.

[Oldshooter]

All treaties have to go thru the Senate. The President can agree to anything. The Senate has to ratify. Don't think the senators have the stomach to pull that one off before the November elections. Especially since the american citizens had health care stuffed down their throats.

yea and who'da thunk that heathcaw wudda passed! 

[Dand]

Some how I feel like much of this talk about Dems or big O doing gun control in some way, is just inviting them to do so?  Would all this talk about the inevitability of nationwide gun control efforts just embolden them to try it?

I'd rather see discussions on how to block any efforts at control or confiscation. I'd rather see discussions on who to elect or support to make sure they know it would be a losing battle.

my 2 cents.

[teamnelson]

I get what you're saying Dand, I really do. But posts like this help me understand exactly how they're trying so I know how to block those efforts. I think Dee nailed it by noting that it would have to be ratified by the Senate, so I know to focus my attention at them if it makes it that far.

I think the efforts will just get more creative over time, and I imagine that a Value Added Tax will be one approach to make exercising one's rights so costly as to be prohibitive. So if we get to vote on that, kill it.

I think SCOTUS opened the door for state and local governments to vote in tighter restrictions. On the one hand it looked like they were affirming the constitution, but on the other hand that only works if your state is pro-constitution. That concerns me as a military member as I could move from one state where guns are legal, to another where they are heavily restricted (like where I am now). So I'd rather work towards a SCOTUS decision that not only affirmed the 2a, but also affirmed it as a nationally protected standard, not subject to interpretation at the state and local level.

[Mikey]

I think that any treaty like that would have to be ratified by the gun owning American public and I don't think that is gonna happen. 

If you want a discussion on how to block efforts at control or confiscation, let's start with the term:  fight back.  jmtcw.

[beerbelly]

No , the public dose not ratifie treaty's. The US Senate dose and we know who controles the senate!
                                              Beerbelly

[powderman]

No , the public dose not ratifie treaty's. The US Senate dose and we know who controles the senate!
                                              Beerbelly

YEP. The commies, uhhhhh, I mean dumcraps. POWDERMAN. 

[Default_Required]

The British As I understand it didnt just out right ban firearms in their land , They started by slowly regulating them out of peoples hands by adding so much crap into law that was required of the citizen to do to maintain ownership with fees, paper work and taxes that it came to the point where it wasnt worth alot of peoples time and they just abandoned ownership all together for the most part.

 On that point , They have already been doing that for a while . Seems every other week or month I learn about a new law being added to the books that on one level or another makes it easier and easier for a young and stupid kid to catch a felon. And what does that do, Other then essentially disarm them in pretty much every way. But fear not , us older guys are just as at risk to having a brain fart moment and *po0F* theres you a bright shiney cup of "Sit down and shut-up" with no voting power and no firearms and no work worth speaking of. ( I'm not for felons ! I'm for not every punishment needing to be a felonious act) So this mated with the ever increasing goal of teachers to turn our children into anything but Good Well Educated Americans.

 And......well.

 THEN you can add on all the other crap these people try to get into law to that worry list.

 My fears lean toward these things being done to one end and one end alone. Piss us off enough to act out and *po0F* marshal law is enacted and our precious Bill Of And Constitution become less of a concern to these people. Then on to bigger and better things as far as they are concerned.

  But the real question is at what point does enough become enough. I think for alot of us that point has long come and gone,  And seems that alot are waking up to that fact more and more by the day. And we strengthen our our efforts to try and fix our country. That is needed now more than at any other time , Boys those that would undo us arent thousands of miles away , they are in our house.

 I'm not a praying man, If I were. I would pray that the day these who would damage our home land wake up soon to what Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto realized "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." And while there is debate as to weither or not the Admiral spoke those exact words after Pearl Harbor , I'm willing to bet he felt them before all was said and done.

 

[mauser98us]

All treaties have to go thru the Senate. The President can agree to anything. The Senate has to ratify. Don't think the senators have the stomach to pull that one off before the November elections. Especially since the american citizens had health care stuffed down their throats.

yea and who'da thunk that heathcaw wudda passed! 

Notice I said before the November elections. After that all bets are off.

[Dee]

Ain't much gonna change in November. Just wait and see, and some of you guys are gonna be real disappointed.

[Oldshooter]

I'm holding out hope for the country and november. Yea nothing much may change but I'm still not gonna give up. Ya gotta have hope or it aint worth goin on. People are gettin sick and tired of being sick and tired. If a few raise up on their hind legs maybe We'll get some real hope and change goin on.

[nomosendero]

Ain't much gonna change in November. Just wait and see, and some of you guys are gonna be real disappointed.

That is possible for sure. It's a long time till Nov. when alot of Americans sway back and forth. Polls bear this out, conditions will change a little, Int. rates, unemployment #'s, status of War/Wars, & many change their minds due to present/short term conditions. When one doesn't have strong compelling principles & logical reasons to believe what they believe this happens.

They are like a "reed shaken in the wind" as the scriptures describe. We will know more about the sheeples
thoughts in late October.