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Offline Nightsniper

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Saving .223 Brass
« on: April 05, 2010, 03:45:40 PM »
Been picking up brass at the range and some spent by me.  Some are Winchester W/B,UMC,Honaday and Remington.  Are they all ok to reload? I had bought some UMCs(200 count Yellow box) and right at the neck they are discolored like a torch burn.  They came out of the box like that. The other UMCs bought in 20 count are normal color.  Are the ones w/burn ok to reload?     Hopeing to get started reloading this summer.
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Re: Saving .223 Brass
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2010, 03:48:29 PM »
Yes save them all or send them to me. ;D The coloring you are talking about is from annealing the brass at the factory nothing to worry about. I save all the .223 brass I find, Same gose for most any brass I find, I'll reload it all. 8)
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Re: Saving .223 Brass
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2010, 12:46:26 AM »
Personally I do not pickup range brass, but lots of folks do. If you are going to use range brass - seperate all head stamps and develop loads for each one. There is a surprising amount of difference between manufactures of brass. Clean your brass throughly and give them a careful inspection. Look for slpit necks, obvious dents, that can not be shot out, or a ring (or thinning) right above the web. Once they past that muster, full length size and look for loose primer pockets when seating the primer and toss those as well. You absolutely must seperate head stamps if you are pushing the upper limit in pressure. If you load light, then likely you would not have to sepate head stamps, however be aware that your zero will more than likely change from one shot to the next due to differing case capacities. These are the reasons I do not use range brass. The money saved is just not worth the hassle + even if you do sepate your head stamps, you more than likey have to change your zero from one to the next, besides all the load development it takes. Even a semi - auto takes a certain amount of pressure to cycle the action reliably, so it is important to load consistantly.
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Re: Saving .223 Brass
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2010, 01:15:38 AM »
i sure couldnt afford to buy all my .223  brass new. All of mine is boughten once fired or range pickup. I dont remember the last time i bought new brass for any caliber.  I have the luxury of knowing who is shooting at my range so i know who reloads and who doesnt and even if i didnt you can about tell once fired from reloaded brass buy looking at the primer. Most miltary brass is crimped and alot of the other .223 brass has a primer sealer.  As to case capasitys LaOtto is correct then do vary but my .223 goes in ars and i dont load it right up to the tilt anyway. As a matter of fact i dont load much of anything right up to max anymore. As to accuracy Ive shot 3/4 inch groups at a 100 yards with ars using mixed brass. Maybe it would be a bit more consistant or maybe it would shoot 1/2 with matched brass but i load .223s by the thousands and these tired old eyes are going to look at the headstamps of every case i load. Ive seperated them before but they seem to find a way to get mixed up while shooting anyway so i just gave up on it. Biggest thing to keep in mind if your loading .223s for ars with mixed brass or even matched brass that is once fired in a differnt gun is to small base size it (I dont size any other way for ars anymore) and trim your brass and trim it at least every other time its used after that. Keep in mind though that alot of your .223 range brass will require the primer pocket to be swadged as all miltary and some comercial brass has crimped primer pockets.  Anyone else that wont use range brass feel free to pick it up and send it this way. Id gladly pay you for the shipping!!!!
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Re: Saving .223 Brass
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2010, 03:09:21 PM »
Lloyd- The difference in how we shoot makes a difference in how you feel about range brass. I do not own an AR or any semi-auto center fire gun of any kind. I am partial to single shot rifles - so I do not shoot volumes. You on the other hand, do shoot volumes, if I remember correctly you have a progressive press, I still load on a single stage press. 1000 cases will last me a very long time. I bought 1000 virgin LC 06 brass for $90, so I am set for a long time + I have some where around 700 Winchester cases waiting in the wings. I understand you might shoot that much is a short time, but shooting 1 at a time takes a while. I went on a PD shoot last June and I shot up around 600 rounds out of 2 - 223 single shot bolts in 3 days shooting. One of those 223's takes turned necks to fit the chamber. That is the most shooting I have done in that short of time - ever. To me hassling with range brass just does not make any sense, but again I do not shoot volumes, if I did I probably would rethink this position. Good Luck and Good Shooting
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Re: Saving .223 Brass
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2010, 03:13:33 PM »
I guess if i didnt own a single ar id have to agree with you too. I shoot very little bolt 223 ammo
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