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Offline briannmilewis

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It occurred to me the other day that I was the first in my family to get into shooting. At 55 I thought back and could not remember any of my family or relatives being hunters or shooters.

Then the deeerrr moment. Even though I am an Aussie living in the U.S., my great, great grandfather on both sides of my family fought in the Civil War with the 15th Massachusetts volunteers and was captured by the south in the battle of Ball's Bluff. My grandfather on my mother's side was in WWI in Europe as a telephone cable guy, running between the trenches and forward command hiding in whatever shell hole they could find. My dad was Australian bomber crew in the Pacific doing daily raids on the Japanese occupying force at Rabaul.

It occurred to me that my great, great grandfather probably was issued a 1861 Springfield, my grandfather a Lee-Enfield SMLE and my father probably had to qualify with a Lee-Enfield also - I don't think the twin .303 Brownings were portable. So in fact I was not the first member of my family to be involved in shooting.

So why not try and collect the same rifles I thought. I know I would only be able to afford a replica Springfield, but what is the chance of finding actual Enfields used in the theaters of battle?

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Re: Need help with Civil War, WWI Europe and WWII Australian rifles
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 01:42:38 AM »
Brian:  the chances are pretty good.  WWI SMLEs were the No1 Mk3 rifle with full stocks and nose caps while WWII SMLEs were the No4 Mk1s, a slightly improved version.  You can still purchase both rifles from any number of mil-surp parts houses like Numrich Arms/Gun Parts Corp., SAMCO or SARCO.  I would suggest you take a look in the latest Shotgun News for adds, they are run quite frequently and you may also find someone selling the older Civil War Springfields.  HTH.

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Re: Need help with Civil War, WWI Europe and WWII Australian rifles
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 12:25:39 PM »
Mikey...talk about some great information. I really appreciate it. Sounds like you know a lot about these things. Just on another note. My great, great grandfather's 15th Mass. Voluteers has a very active Civil War reenactment group. If I managed to get a real Springfield and had the money to get the kit, I think that would be an amazing way to honor my family history.

Thanks, Brian

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Re: Need help with Civil War, WWI Europe and WWII Australian rifles
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010, 02:38:08 PM »
Hi Mate,
Australian Troops did not Use No 4 Enfields,
Only the No1 Mark111,
Look for Lithgow Marked SMLE
Regards,Tony.

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Re: Need help with Civil War, WWI Europe and WWII Australian rifles
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2010, 04:39:04 PM »
Many Enfields in the Civil War also.
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