My wife has a P9 and a friend bought a PM9 a couple of months ago. He has shot it extensively and loves it. (even more than his hi-power) I'm going down tomorrow to trade a Kimber Pro-carry (I love 1911's, but this is still too heavy for full time carry) for either a PM9 or the P9 covert. Both will fit into my front pocket, neither will fit into my back pocket.