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17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« on: December 31, 2009, 06:20:05 PM »
are they the same round or different?   i was thinking about getting a 17 ackley hornet and i see that there is a factory encore barrel listed as a 17 k hornet and was wondering if it is just a different name for the ackley hornet?
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2009, 11:58:30 PM »
Quote from: crawford769 on December 31, 2009, 06:20:05 PM
are they the same round or different?   i was thinking about getting a 17 ackley hornet and i see that there is a factory encore barrel listed as a 17 k hornet and was wondering if it is just a different name for the ackley hornet?
 

For the 17/20 cal here good site for loading data click on forum and you get all the answer you need

http://www.saubier.com/
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2010, 02:26:03 AM »
PO Ackly did not inprove the 22 hornet. Anouther guy did I can't remember his name , thats why the inproved 22 hornet is called the K Hornet.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2010, 02:36:48 AM »
Think it was a guy named Kilburn for K-Hornet
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2010, 06:09:05 AM »
Quote from: IOWA DON on January 01, 2010, 02:36:48 AM
Think it was a guy named Kilburn for K-Hornet

Kilbourn was a gunsmith from New York and developed the K hornet with 40 degree shoulders in 1940.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2010, 01:37:02 PM »
rcbs lists different dies for the 17ah and the 17k so i guess they are different.   there looks to be a lot of small bore info on that saubier site,  thanks roper.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2010, 05:49:43 AM »
does anyone have a case drawing for the 17 k hornet?   i assume the 17 ah is the more popular of the 2?
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2010, 04:48:36 PM »
Quote from: crawford769 on January 02, 2010, 05:49:43 AM
does anyone have a case drawing for the 17 k hornet?   i assume the 17 ah is the more popular of the 2?

Best thing maybe call the guys that are selling the barrel and ask if they have a reamer print might have one for the Ackley also. 
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2010, 12:02:11 PM »
Hi,
 Try here this is a link to stevespages for a drawing of the 17 AH does not have the 17 K though. Hope it helps.

http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd17ackleyhornet.jpg

Here is also a link to page of case demensions. He does have 22KH

http://stevespages.com/page8d.htm


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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2010, 04:10:16 PM »
i emailed rcbs about it but haven't heard back.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 04:26:19 AM »
they emailed me and said that the 17ah has a 30 degree shoulder and the 17 k hornet has a 35 degree shoulder.   not much difference.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 08:30:39 AM »
Personally I suspect the K-Hornet to be the far more popular of the two. You hear little of the AH in comparison to the K-Hornet.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2010, 02:15:26 PM »
youre saying the 17k hornet is more popular than the 17ah or do you mean the 22k hornet?
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 03:35:19 AM »
In the .22 version the K-Hornet is the most popular. BUT...in the .17 version the Ackley Hornet takes the cake by about 90%.

attached is a reamer print of the .17AH
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 12:09:08 AM »
i had one and filled the case to the top with 4198 put a 25 on it. fast, easy, good vel.,accurate.BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2010, 05:23:08 AM »
The 17 K and the 17 AH are different rounds. If I rember correctly the difference is in the shoulder angle. The 17 AH is my all time favorite small varmint round. With 10.4 gr. of powder I`m pushing a 19 gr. Calhoon bullet at 3,600 fps. Max. point blank range, plus or minus 2 1/2 in., 290 yrds. A real little lazer, but presure jumps very fast some when working up a load you need to go in .1 gr. steps.
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Re: 17 ackley hornet and 17 k hornet
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2010, 07:00:22 PM »
There are two K Hornets on Steve's pages...35 degree shoulder and 40 degree shoulder. Steve also has one Improved Hornet (25 degree shoulder). I think the 40 degree is more popular.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2010, 02:16:58 PM »
I've got just over 6,000 rounds through my Ackley Hornet [17] and it's still going strong! It is my favorite rifle.
Walt Berger [bullet maker]said it was his fav, too!
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