Author Topic: Son in trouble. (Read 1622 times)

wind drift · « **Reply #30 on:** May 09, 2010, 04:03:56 PM »

Well folks thanks for all the input.Dee he is in a private christain school i think it is the way to go if one can afford it or home school i really like him being there because it just 7 kids in his class more time for the teacher to spend with each child and they teach GOD'S word there every day they even go to chapel every wed.He just turned 6 and can write in cursive better than me being in kindergarten they have already done a presentation over a president and a science fair project where they had to do a verbal presentation in front of a 100 people which was pretty cool.As far as whiping him he only gets them when shows disrespect to elders or parents or if i tell him something 5 different times with my dad if the word boy came out of his mouth once you got it.

gypsyman · « **Reply #31 on:** May 13, 2010, 02:57:14 AM »

wind drift, never mentioned what grade he's in. If he's a senior in high school, if I were you, might get him evauluated. If he's in 3rd or 4th grade, I'm with magooch. First, I would disipline him on disrespecting the teacher. Then, I'ld probably ask the teacher what she/he would do if there was a real problem. Then, probably wreck my truck on the way home laughing so hard. Sounds like you have a real terrorist there. Green booger,sticking his tongue out. Wait till he picks out that green booger and flicks it on one of his buddies. 50 lash's!! gypsyman

myronman3 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 13, 2010, 04:30:39 AM »

my rule on spanking is that i never spank if i am angry. if you spank while you are angry, that is abuse. take the time to cool off, let the kid know it is coming. when you are calm and really dont want to do it, that is when you do it. it is quite effective.

magooch · « **Reply #33 on:** May 13, 2010, 04:54:54 AM »

I respectfully disagree. Whenever I laid a hand on my kids, I wanted them to understand that I was damned mad about whatever it was that they had done. To whip their little fannies with a grin on my face, or in a calm manner, seems a little sadistic to me. I will concede that it takes a good degree of control, but that's part of being a parent. By the way, I can only remember a couple of times when it was necessary for me to apply my hand to their rear ends. I don't believe in using paddles, or belts. However, I did use my foot one time on my teen aged son's butt.

gstewart44 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 13, 2010, 05:45:11 AM »

Quote from: myronman3 on May 13, 2010, 04:30:39 AM

my rule on spanking is that i never spank if i am angry. if you spank while you are angry, that is abuse. take the time to cool off, let the kid know it is coming. when you are calm and really dont want to do it, that is when you do it. it is quite effective.

+1 on that Myronman. I learned that lesson a long time ago and it is effective that way.

myronman3 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:44:39 AM »

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To whip their little fannies with a grin on my face, or in a calm manner, seems a little sadistic to me.

that is me... i will look you dead in the eye, smile, then pull the trigger.
the important thing is, i am in control of my emotions. it is entirely too easy to take it too far or hit too hard when you are angry. it is not about taking anger out of them or intimidating them, it is about teaching a lesson. my spankings are done out of love. and my kids know it. the spankings are preceded with an explantion of what they did wrong. then the spanking, and followed by an explaination of how to fix the problem. i wrap it all up with hugs and kisses to let them know i love them. and dont think that because i am not angry that they are light spankings, either.
my parents used to spank me (and sometimes beat) while angry, and that was wrong. there was no explaination as to what i did wrong, or discussion about how to fix the problem, no attempt to find a solution to the problem, and no reassurance afterward. i used to think my father hated me, and i still know that my mom did/does. it is all fine, as it has made me a good dad. my kids are among the best you could ever meet, and i know that how i raise them has alot to do with the quality people they are becoming.

Sweetwater · « **Reply #36 on:** May 13, 2010, 05:45:37 PM »

My mom would lick me with a yard stick (she never had one over 30") immediately upon "being caught" - then, at some point in my young career, she started the lecture routine - I hated them - they were way worse than the licking as they went on and on until I had no idea what she was talking about. On the other hand, Dad did not lecture. It was a back-hand if he was driving, or a lathe from the shed, never a strap or a boot, and always short, to the point and right now so I knew what I was being spanked for. None of those endless beatings you always hear about. I don't think I was ever bruised. If so, then not very badly, certainly nothing that ever needed any medical attention of any kind. Keep a cool head, absolutely. Wait? Never. If I had to wait to stay in control, it went by, unattended. And maybe that was best on that occasion, also. I still think you did it right, DAD!

Swampman · « **Reply #37 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:04:28 PM »

Don't take the spirit out of the kid. America needs more people with a back bone.

Sweetwater · « **Reply #38 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:22:52 PM »

Spirit with respect yields a terrific kid.

Either without the other yields trouble, sooner or later, or both sooner and later.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #39 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:29:50 PM »

I went to Catholic school. got my hand swatted with a ruler a time or two! I learned to not do anything to enable that to happen! lesson learned! You leftist grow up hating!

Sweetwater · « **Reply #40 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:45:37 PM »

Nothing wrong with appropriate discipline - right now. and you do take steps to try to not let that happen again.

I love my Mom & Dad and raised my kids exactly the same way. Dad was forever telling me I didn't need to be so strick, but also acknowledged I had the only little kids he liked being around or would consider taking to a restaurant. I said if I was less strick, he would like them less - we had 5 kids (five years 8 months from youngest to oldest) and they were a handful, but I could take them anywhere, anytime, and they would be polite and respectful and have fun. My oldest and my youngest have kids now, and they are raising my grandkids as I raised them. With Love and Discipline.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #41 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:50:10 PM »

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With Love and Discipline.

Thats the key Sweetwater! I like the Song "Daddy's Hands" !

teamnelson · « **Reply #42 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:46:24 PM »

I am a big fan of what we lovingly refer to in the Marine Corps as beat your face. I can be angry, but not touching him, and he still feels pain ... but its self inflicted. Haven't actually had to discipline my son like that in probably 5 years, but he remembers the last time he lied to his Mom. He was either pushing or in the front leaning rest for what probably seemed like an eternity for him.

Spanky · « **Reply #43 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:13:23 PM »

Quote from: TeamNelson on May 13, 2010, 07:46:24 PM

I am a big fan of what we lovingly refer to in the Marine Corps as beat your face. I can be angry, but not touching him, and he still feels pain ... but its self inflicted. Haven't actually had to discipline my son like that in probably 5 years, but he remembers the last time he lied to his Mom. He was either pushing or in the front leaning rest for what probably seemed like an eternity for him.

Brings back some "fond" memories of the quarterdeck.

There's no better discipline than Marine Corps discipline!!

Spanky

FWiedner · « **Reply #44 on:** May 14, 2010, 03:45:21 AM »

Quote from: Spanky on May 13, 2010, 09:13:23 PM

Quote from: TeamNelson on May 13, 2010, 07:46:24 PM
I am a big fan of what we lovingly refer to in the Marine Corps as beat your face. I can be angry, but not touching him, and he still feels pain ... but its self inflicted. Haven't actually had to discipline my son like that in probably 5 years, but he remembers the last time he lied to his Mom. He was either pushing or in the front leaning rest for what probably seemed like an eternity for him.

Brings back some "fond" memories of the quarterdeck.
There's no better discipline than Marine Corps discipline!!

Spanky

... and this is where I learned how to do it, as well.

I raised my kids with the rule that I would tell them to do something one time. After that, judgement.

Nope, never had to use physical discipline beyond grounding or restriction of privileges.

wreckhog · « **Reply #45 on:** May 14, 2010, 05:09:08 AM »

They say that is often difficult to understand your's parent's love for you until you raise your own kid. You would trade your life for theirs, no question, no hesistation. Doesn't mean that you should noit beat the crap out of them to get the results you want. As long as it is done with love.

FWiedner · « **Reply #46 on:** May 14, 2010, 05:14:09 AM »

Quote from: wreckhog on May 14, 2010, 05:09:08 AM

Doesn't mean that you should noit beat the crap out of them to get the results you want. As long as it is done with love.

Just a thought: There are plenty of women and children in the ground as a result of this brand of "love".

Oldshooter · « **Reply #47 on:** May 14, 2010, 06:45:26 AM »

FW you have to understand that you are dealing with a sarcastic leftist. No need to try and make him understand reason.

Sweetwater · « **Reply #48 on:** May 16, 2010, 02:09:18 PM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on May 13, 2010, 06:50:10 PM

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With Love and Discipline.

Thats the key Sweetwater! I like the Song "Daddy's Hands" !

Yes sir, Oldshooter! Holly Dunn had me in tears the first time I heard it. I forget what show it was on but Jerry Jeff Walker introduced her. I really like Jerry Jeff, but he didn't hold my attention near as long as she did. Been a lot of years now - still tear up at the sound of "Daddy's Hands"....

Sweetwater · « **Reply #49 on:** May 16, 2010, 02:17:54 PM »

Quote from: FWiedner on May 14, 2010, 05:14:09 AM

Quote from: wreckhog on May 14, 2010, 05:09:08 AM
Doesn't mean that you should noit beat the crap out of them to get the results you want. As long as it is done with love.

Just a thought: There are plenty of women and children in the ground as a result of this brand of "love".

My first wife was a "husband beater" - basic reason I don't live in Maine anymore other than I simply Love the West! I had enough scars in the 14 years we gave it a go, so I said enough. The whole town thought I was nuts! She took her 2nd husband to court for domestic abuse allegging he pulled a gun on her. He emphatically supported her story to a degree, but "the rest of the story" included she had just knifed him - then he lifted his shirt and showed the court the wound. Court ruled self-defense in his favor. Still believe I was the "lucky one".....