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mortar/cannon platform
« on: May 31, 2010, 07:02:15 PM »
    I am thinking about building a full scale mortar platform 96 in by 105 in.  to shoot my mountain rifle from for nationals and the mortar from everynow and then.     any ideas. 

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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 07:14:52 PM »
Have a 600 lb gorilla to move it ?  ::)
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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 07:17:41 PM »
Plans are in the various AOP mortar folios.  They are assembled on site from a bunch of pieces so you wouldn't have to move it intact.  They require accurate manufacture so they can be assembled with any piece in any position.
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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 03:48:10 AM »
I agree,
Make it knockdown.  Bolted together construction.   Make it out of treated wood and store it off the ground and it will last a really long time.
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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 08:35:02 AM »
     Rick,  That sounds like a great idea, especially for use in accuracy experiments.  Mike and I have made two platforms over the years and they both worked very well.  We built a 6' X 6' for our half scale SBR 1797 4" mortar in 1985 for an article on mortar accuracy we wrote for The Artilleryman magazine.  It made a tremendous difference in both range and deflection accuracy.  I'm sure you know there nothing worse than a 'Hobby Horse' mortar that digs into the dirt differently with every shot.  That platform had 4 sleepers embedded into the leveled and rammed soil and staked well on the rear and sides.  The rails were bolted to the sleepers also.  For newbies, the sub-surface sleepers run parallel to the 'Plane of Fire' and the top rails are 90 degs. to the them.

      We also made a large, 82" X 112", platform for the big Paixhans Monster Mortar we built last year.  When we take it off the trailer, for firing experiments this Fall, we will mount it on six, 82" long, pressure treated sleepers which will be bolted to the rails.  It's a bit of work to emplace these platforms, but the stability of a well built platform and the feeling of confidence that it inspires, can't be beat!  Best wishes on your's!

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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 08:59:06 AM »
Rick,

Maybe something will be of use to you in Robert's  HAND-BOOK OF ARTILLERY, 1863. P.127, ART XI. PLATFORMS.
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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 10:21:01 AM »
I am no longer a N-SSA member, but am sure that you cannot shoot your gun off of a platform of any kind. Might check the rules.

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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 01:17:24 PM »
hey, i just check with the artillery officer of the n-ssa today. and i can shoot the cannon and mortar from a platform.   thanks for the web page on the hand book i am looking at it now.

 I am now thinking about what size wood i really want to use tho, because the 5x 3.5 in planks are a little much for a 24lb mortar and 2.25 mountain rifle.  i was thinking about using 2 x 5 rough cut wood. planks. and i want to make it 10ft by 12 ft. so there is plenty of room to shoot he cannon on it too.
 
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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 02:50:28 AM »
What kind of wood ? 

The shooting platform I built for my BB mortar has warped beyond usability .  It was made of 6x6 runners and 2x4 's  They were the green treated wood . Both the runners and the cross pieces are turning in to propellers   :'(

We do not live in an area where good klin dried wood is available.

The low humidity here dries out even kiln dried wood .
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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »
i was thinking of uses fresh cut yellow pine from here in va. we have a high humidity level so maybe it will do better. i think it was around 80% humidity today.

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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 06:09:44 PM »
Not to sound off topic, but built a picnic table out of pressure treated wood over 15 years ago. Used one of the water proofing stains to protect it and it has survived two moves and to move it takes at least 3 people and so far is as good as it was when first built. While you would not probably stain it, the water proofing treatment has held up well and you would probably need to build your platform so it could easily be disassembled. Lag  screws with washers and a couple guys with variable speed drills could make assembly and disassembly easier. Frank

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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 08:24:21 PM »
I would suggest getting one of the AOP mortar folios that otherwise appeals to you and get the platform plans that are included.
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Re: mortar/cannon platform
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2010, 03:41:22 AM »
Not to sound off topic, but built a picnic table out of pressure treated wood over 15 years ago. Used one of the water proofing stains to protect it and it has survived two moves and to move it takes at least 3 people and so far is as good as it was when first built. While you would not probably stain it, the water proofing treatment has held up well and you would probably need to build your platform so it could easily be disassembled. Lag  screws with washers and a couple guys with variable speed drills could make assembly and disassembly easier. Frank

Frank46,
I also have had good luck with treated wood and have found that it accepts stain nicely.
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