Amadinijhad, Iran and the nuclear threat..

[ironglow]

  Most of us understand the threat the Iranian pursuit of nuclear bombs presents, most that is but a few here in this country. Some even seem to back the Iranian revolutionary guard in their efforts to intimidate of destroy Israel.
   curiously, their "brothers" the Saudis, are not so easy to be used as willing idiots:

  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7148555.ece

[mechanic]

They've already told you that T.M, multiple times, in every public speech made.  They want to destroy 1.) Israel, and 2.) the U.S.  There does not have to be a complicated plot to everything, sometimes it's obvious.

[ironglow]

 If Ahmadinijad truly believes his destiny is to usher in the war and destruction of "The 12th Imam" (al Mahdi), he may well do it !
    We have already seen hundreds of his faith brothers blow themselves to bits..in service to their prophet or god..

    Fact is, Ahmadinijad and his henchmen claim they have a "signed contract' to do the 12th Imam's will;

 http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/12th-imam.htm

[no guns here]

Yep... there is no western style "common sense" to the muslims.  They are more than willing to destroy themselves in order to attempt to destroy us.  Notice the "suicide bombers", "homicide bombers" and others.  Notice the muslims who are living a great and prosperous life in America and they turn their backs on the nation that provided every comfort they have in order to attempt to attack and kill us.  Iran is mostly attempting to play "mind games" with the west in order to buy time to produce the nuke.  Of course they MOST LIKELY won't use it.  It's just a threat.  They KNOW that we are fully capable of detroying their navy, army, air force or even their entire nation in "30 minutes or less, or we'll do it again for free".  However, if they THINK they have a fool proof, untraceable way to put a nuke into ISRAEL or even possibly a US carrier group, I think they would give it serious thought.  I don't think they are stupid enough to put a nuke on a boat in New York harbor... at least not overtly or with any sort of acknowledgement of responsibility.  They could however, run one across our southern border in a truck and take out a southern city with far less risk of attribution.  Still say the warning should be...  "if any nuclear or atomic device of any type is exploded in the US, or Israel, we will assume it was developed, placed and detonated by IRAN and we will  respond in kind against entire nation of IRAN."


NGH

[briarpatch]

I have a question. If there was a nuke attack against the USA or its interest and it came from or was perceived to come from a muslim nation.  What country would benifit the most?
If Israel, should we not fear them as well as muslims?
In other words why do it when your neighbor can be made to do it?

[SHOOTALL]

If they want opne some country should give them one

[magooch]

So it's the Israelis who are the ones we have to be leery of; the benign and benevolent leaders of Iran are just trying to get along.  Those sneaky zionists are setting us up for a big fall.  Nuke Jerusalem! Nuke em now!

[ironglow]

    The whole debate can be summed up thusly;
        
        "If the neighboring Muslims laid down their weapons today, there would be no war;
             If the Israelis laid down their weapons today, there would be no Israel" !       (paraphrasing Dick Morris)

      ...It's as simple as that !

[ironglow]

TM;

      So that's where you're coming from, some oif that old Mormon doctrine as pushed by the Neal Maxwell Institute. There is a lot of threshing about trying to place the first temple in Egypt with those folks;
          http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_farms.html

  Naturally, it takes a great deal of ignoring true history to embrace the Anglo-Israel theory..along with the "lost tribes" coming to America.
  In order to support their pre-formed agenda, they must delve into various spurious manuscripts which have little or no support from most archaeologists and leading Christian universities..