Best ?

[Land_Owner]

FALSE??
Who/what?
Not disagreeing just trying to get insight into the thought.
Blessings

Sorry William  I wasn't responding to your post.  Just answering the OP's question.  My reply does seem out of context reading through your thread.

[williamlayton]

Certainly an apology is not needed.
I just was trying too connect the dots.
Blessings

[nw_hunter]

Ronnie defeated that evil Soviet empire without a shot being fired....nuff said!

Lance

Ronnie didn't defeat anyone. The Soviet Union learned the hard way about Afghanistan, just like Alexander the Great, and England did. They involved themselves in a perpetual war, just like Bush was nice enough to do before he left. Afghanistan will break us economically also. It already is, and has.

Well! He did say.......... Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall. Or something to that effect, didn't he?
I think Reagan was a pretty good man, even if he was a little too friendly to the illegals.

Ford was better, because he did nothing

[slim rem 7]

i gave up on connecting the dots .. the best i can do is pray every morning to be able to keep it in the right lane an not harm anyone ,,on my way to the nursing home..so far so good..
 god is good ..slim

[SHOOTALL]

The pres can't do much on his own.
Actually it is the congress that should get the blame for most that is wrong, or the glory for what little they do right.
They are the ones that really have the say so over what the government does and what laws are passed and how our money is spent. ( WASTED)!!!
It may be the presidents idea but they have to vote on it.
He can veto their votes but they can override him with enough votes.
So we should be going after them the most.

I would still say R.R. was the best we have had in a long time.

Sorry, forgot to answer the question.
I am not sure who really was the best but I darn sure know who was and is the worst!
Anyone care to venture a guess?



LONGTOM

Wish Obama knew that

[torpedoman]

I like IKE and if his advice had been heeded we would be a lot better off.'BEWARE THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX'  he is the man who built the interstate hwy system one of the governments few good ideas.

[Dee]

And what was Ike's advise that we should have heeded?

[blind ear]

Beware of the military industrial complex.

[Dee]

Ok, my brain was AWOL, when I asked the question. Do you think Ike meant things like unchallenged bids in Iraq, where Haliburton got most all of them, and Cheney was leading the orchestra from the White House basement?

[blind ear]

I would think that is most blatent along with the selection process of military suppliers, but that is me and I have no idea what torpedoman thinks. eddie

[Dee]

Well he certainly called that one right didn't he?

[spikehorn]

Bush was the best president since Reagan ? True or false ?  Which Bush ?

False!

[SHOOTALL]

Then who ?

[spikehorn]

None

[blind ear]

It has fallen  into an abyss with and since Reagan.

I watched some of a congresional commities questioning of one of the private contractors in Iraq. Layers of lawyers designed to hide and deflect the responsibility for actions that are criminal and no charges have been brought against the ones that made the breaches. Coorporations are takeing over critical duties of the military. They are disguised by titles like Diplomatic Corp and are layered corporations designed to difuse responsibility and identity of the ones commiting the crimes. (killing of civilians, though they are likely to be voluntary shields)

It was so much song and dance it had the appearance that it was designed to never be resolved. Something is being hidden that will probably never be exposed.

I have to find out more and think about this some more.

[SHOOTALL]

Why are these companies needed ? Is it because we have tied the hands of our service men to the point they can't do their job ? Its getting like duck hunting there are so many laws if you hunt ya are bound to be breaking one !

[blind ear]

It is because the congress supplies massive ammounts of money funneled through government agencies, that once did the job, to private coorporations that obtain contracts without competition. Something else we have slept through while letting our congress be bought and paid for by the coorporations.

[williamlayton]

I recall that at of the beginning of WWII the government developed and made all of the torpedoes the Navy used.
About 1/4 to 1/2 of them did not expolde and some ran wild. The Navy and this armory refused to concede a problem.
It was General Electric, I believe, which devoped--on their on, without government funding, a new and better torpedo. Then it took intevention, at high levels, to get the Navy too accept it.
Private concerns, working without government controls, can, and do, produce better products.
Let's dicuss the AR.
Let's discuss the guns I like to carry.
Blessings

[magooch]

Do I sense a little thread drift?

[SHOOTALL]

Let it go where it may , interesting talk ........

[scootrd]

This was previously discussed on an earlier thread , here was my previous response.

I liked Reagan , But lets not go putting any politician too high up on a pedestal. Remember it wasn't all sunshine.
Snapshot of Reagan's Tenure.

The Good
Reagan's policies are recognized as bringing about one of the longest peacetime expansions in U.S. history.
Real Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth recovered strongly after the 1982 recession and produced five straight quarters of growth averaging 8.5%.
The GDP grew during Reagan's administration at an annual rate of 9.4% per year, the Real GDP (adjusted for inflation) increased 3.96% per year on average higher than the post-World War II average of 3.6%.

The moderate (depending on if your a fan of trickle down economics)
During Reagan's tenure, income tax rates of the top personal tax bracket dropped from 70% to 28% in 7 years (Trickle down Economics), while social security and medicare taxes increased.
Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in 1982 then dropped during the rest of Reagan's terms, averaging 7.5%, and inflation significantly decreased. A net job increase of about 16 million also occurred (about the rate of population growth). Reagan’s administration is the only one not to have raised the minimum wage.

The not so good
There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits.
The U.S. trade deficit expansion, contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis.
In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad,.
The national debt raised from $700 billion to $3 trillion.
The United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.

Reagan Himself described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.

To me if the new Debt was Reagan's greatest disappointment ,

In my opinion telling Michal Gorbachev to tear down this wall was on of his greatest achievements. That along with the freeing of the 53 hostages held by Iran for 444 days. The hostages were formally released into United States custody just minutes after Reagan was sworn into office. (I think cause Iran knew Reagan was no one to mess with. )

Out of all the presidents we have had though , he is probably the only one I would have liked to have met.
And Nancy was an elegant first Lady !!!

[scootrd]

In 1980 Reagan Took every state except Minn, WV, GA, Maryland, and DC. He took 489 Electoral votes and 43,901,812 popular votes to Jimmy Carters 49 Electoral votes and  35,483,820 popular votes. a difference of 8,417, 992 votes

His second term was even more popular (which usually is considered a lame duck term)

In 1984 Reagan took every state except Minn. 525 Electoral votes 54,455,000 popular votes Walter F. Mondale 13 Electoral votes 37,577,000 Popular votes. Every state including staunch democratic states were a sea of red except one single blue mark on the  U.S. Map the state of Minn.  a difference of 16,878, 000 popular votes.

Reagan appealed to a vast a majority of Americans across all party lines. Now granted I understand he won 90% of the electoral votes but only 50.7 % of the popular vote against Jimmy Carter but he is in the Top 5 of all time popular and top 2 highest electoral votes in History.

Popular votes    
* Lyndon Johnson's 61.1% to Barry Goldwater's 38.5% in the 1964 presidential election
* Franklin D. Roosevelt's 60.8% to Alf Landon's 36.5% in the 1936 presidential election
* Richard Nixon's 60.7% to George McGovern's 37.5% in the 1972 presidential election
* Warren Harding's 60.3% to James M. Cox's 34.1% in the 1920 presidential election
* Ronald Reagan's 58.8% to Walter Mondale's 40.6% in the 1984 presidential election
* Theodore Roosevelt's 56.4% to Alton B. Parker's 37.6% in the 1904 presidential election

Electoral votes

* Franklin D. Roosevelt's 523 electoral votes to Alf Landon's 8 electoral votes in 1936. (97% margin)
* Ronald Reagan's 525 electoral votes to Walter Mondale's 13 electoral votes in 1984. (95.2% margin)
* Richard Nixon's 520 electoral votes to George McGovern's 17 electoral votes and John Hospers's 1 in 1972. (93.3% margin)
* James Monroe's 231 electoral votes to John Quincy Adams's 1 electoral vote in 1820. (85.6% margin)
Ronald Reagan was first president with over 50 million votes.
Nixon (1972) and Reagan (1984) are the only 2 presidents to win 49/50 states.

[blind ear]

Nancy was nuts, she spoke to spirits through mediums, Reagan lived with her. I guess everyone has thier little quirks.  eddie

[blind ear]

Shootall,

they should have shot all of the ACLU lawyers rather than let them affect the operation of the military.

I know a young guy just back from IRAQ that said that the soilders that didn't want to go into the field were allowed to stay at the camp and lay around and do nothing because of the civil rights lawyers presence there. Pitiful. Or was it contrived to get corporations into the game. I wish that I knew. eddie