Author Topic: The Rifle H&R Never Knew They Had ... (Read 4946 times)

John Boy · « **on:** April 03, 2007, 06:41:28 PM »

H&R Pardner Shotgun - 28ga
TJ's Enterprise 25-35 liner, 1:10 Twist
25-20 WCF Chamber Reamer
H&R 22 Hornet Extractor
Front Globe - Swiss Pin Post
Long Range Vernier Rear Sight
Pope Palm Rest

and one has a nice SS Gallery and Range Rifle

thinking about a 32-40 next

Click on 2nd picture to enlarge

xhare · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2007, 02:36:38 AM »

Now that is different!! Is it a good shooter for you? Hope it is. Good luck with it.

mt3030 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2007, 03:02:59 AM »

Great idea!!! How about a close-up photo of breech end of barrel and extractor?

MSP Ret · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2007, 03:04:25 AM »

SWEET!! and different as well, how does it shoot? Is it new to you? Did you make it up or buy it that way? Questions questions, always questions....<><....

John Boy · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:10:59 AM »

Gents: Here's the overview:
* ... I made the rifle from the parts listed in the 1st post ... total cost $389
* ... It has been to the range for testing twice. First was for chronograph and fine tuning the sights after laser bore alignment. Second was for groups determination at 25yds and 50yds.
The rifle will be primarily used as a Schuezten Gallery Rifle - 25yds at a 25 ring target. This is why the palm rest was added.
* ... At 25yds from bench rest - 20 shots blew out the bullseye. At 50yds - 2 1/2" group.
* ... Recipe is CCI SR primers - 5gr Unique - Meister 85gr LRNFP bullets that went over the chronograph at 1170 fps with a SD of 7. I believe that I can tighten up the 50yd groups with adjustment to the powder charge and Alox'ing the bullets

It was a fun project and saved my piggy bank a ton of money instead of having to buy an original in the $x,xxx dollar range
A word of caution ... these shotguns have a psi range of 11 - 13,000. NEVER configure a new fangled rifle with a caliber PSI rating greater than the shotgun

Breech picture attached ... Click on it to zoom in and the brownish color is camera generated

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:40:58 AM »

John Boy

I am truely impressed , that is one fine rifle you have and yes it is something that H&R would have never dreamed possable .

stimpy

eskimo36 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:42:12 AM »

John Boy,
Did you epoxy in your liner? Can we see the crown?
Thanks.

longdistance · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2007, 02:42:50 PM »

what is the crown ?

John Boy · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2007, 03:25:01 PM »

Eskimo: The liner has 3 bushings silver soldered on it and then epoxied into the barrel using the 4 minute epoxy.
The bushings are at the:
... chamber end (1/16)
... middle of the barrel (20/1000)
... and at the muzzle (10/1000)
Click on picture to enlarge

eskimo36 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2007, 03:48:31 PM »

I have a Remington 22 with a shroud over the barrel to appear as a heavy barrel with a similar bushing in the front between the barrel and the shroud. All epoxied together. Great work you did. Keep up the good work and thanks for the pics. They make the story worth telling....

baranjhn · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2007, 06:05:54 AM »

Very nice! Where did you get your palm rest?

John Boy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2007, 10:29:46 AM »

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Where did you get your palm rest?

http://www.jeffsoutfitters.com/ ... you'll have to look for it, their server is down now

John Boy · « **Reply #12 on:** December 13, 2008, 01:52:58 PM »

Found this target in my files that I forgot about: 50yds Offhand - 5 Shot Group from the H&R 25-20

Slufoot · « **Reply #13 on:** December 13, 2008, 03:28:06 PM »

Nice rifle and nice work! I like it!

GOOD SHOOTING!
Slufoot

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #14 on:** December 13, 2008, 03:42:35 PM »

John Boy that sure is one nice looking piece. Do you guys have a range up there where they hold matches?

That sure would be a nice league type of a thing to get started.

Troyboy · « **Reply #15 on:** December 13, 2008, 04:03:02 PM »

That is some HANDI work. proud of that job we are

John Boy · « **Reply #16 on:** December 13, 2008, 04:39:13 PM »

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Do you guys have a range up there where they hold matches?

Rusty - Yes. At a club in south Jersey. We hold 25yd offhand (40 rounds) matches using the 25 ring ASSRA targets (same as I posted). The matches are every Sunday, January through March. We have 8 shooting positions indoors (with heaters

) and shoot to the targets outdoors in half an oil tank.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2011, 03:34:30 PM »

I linked in from your recent post;
Have you improved the groups since last here?

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:46:13 AM »

Copy what all others have said very

and inovative that's what we like GREAT JOB!!! Kurt

rdlange · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:05:42 AM »

That's really something! I used to shoot BP cartridge silhouette when I had better eyes. Would love to have had that rifle back then.

Be well...

geezerbiker · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2011, 08:59:47 AM »

I didn't realize the .25-35 was that low of a pressure round. It's essentially a .30-30 Winchester necked down to .257"... I would think the pressures it made would be closer to 20,000 CUP...

Tony

tobster · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2011, 10:32:59 AM »

Quote from: geezerbiker on June 04, 2011, 08:59:47 AM

I didn't realize the .25-35 was that low of a pressure round. It's essentially a .30-30 Winchester necked down to .257"... I would think the pressures it made would be closer to 20,000 CUP...

Tony

I think he said he used a 25/35 liner for a 25-20 chamber.

geezerbiker · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2011, 05:34:22 PM »

Oops missed that. Yes a shotgun frame would be more than strong enough for a .25-20. I've been thinking of getting something in that caliber for a long time but it'll have to be next year. I think I've maxed out my new rifle budget for the year...

Tony

John Boy · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2011, 05:38:33 PM »

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Have you improved the groups since last here?

gcrank, I am not the greatest off hand shooter. But the rifle from bench rest will put 5 holes MOA @ 50yds. At 100yds I'm averaging 1.5 to 2". Reason? That's with my 25yd gallery load of either Unique or Trail Boss. Am sure, the groups with the proper powder charge @ 100 would be possible bragging ones

Geezer - yes the 25-35 is TJ's Enterprise liner only that I used - then chambered for 25-20. Been dragging my feet because I want to replace the wood with the checkered walnut on the Buffalo Classic. If there are any take offs floating around - send me a PM