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223 1/9 twist loads
« on: July 10, 2010, 11:52:39 AM »
I bought the rem. sps tac. it has the 1/9 twist so i picked up some lapua  brass, varget,reloader 15,some 69gr.sieera mk.,75gr.amax.,federal match primers do any of you guys shoot the 223 1/9 if so do you have any loads that you are willing to share also i have a lucas boreguide coming in about a month.I top it with a bushnell 10 power fixed tac. with the burris zee rings (got to love them) any info. would be great. THANKS

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 12:36:59 PM »
Hard to find data for 1:9. Seems everything is based on 1:12 or 1:7. I had a NEF 223 1:9 and had decent results with Varget and R-15, but got my best results with near max loads of H-380, for 40 to 65 gr bullets. I used the ladder method to come up with the optimal charge.
 
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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 01:08:08 PM »
I have a Bushmaster AR-15 with a 9 twist and I shoot Sierra's Accuracy Load for the AR-15 for the 69 Match King. 25.3 grs Varget and it is very accurate. It will do a number on groundhogs also. Varget is really a good all round powder for the 223 with 52 gr and heaver bullets. You will not get the highest velocity with it but you will get accuracy.

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 02:40:19 PM »
i've used 22.1 g of h322 with everything from 50-75 g bullets. great results. rl 15 with 64g win pp bullets was another accurate combo. sorry, can't remember the charge weight. also imr 4198 with 50g hornady spsx. near max loads, 1" groups at 200. all in 1/9 stevens
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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 02:56:22 PM »
Try 26grs of Varget lapua brass Fed match primers topped with a 70 gr berger  vld match.
This load in my  Savage shoots in the 2's.

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 05:12:28 PM »
Thanks for the info. hornet112 how do you like the fed. primers and if any one would like to help feel free.Thanks

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 04:35:48 AM »
Federal primers are all i shoot, never had a problem. If it ain't broke don't fix it

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 08:04:56 AM »
I don't reload but I have 2 1-9 twist .223 rifles, a NEF survivor and an accurized mini-14.  both shoot right at 1moa.
They both require good ammo, no Wolf ect. 
I am surprised that they shoot equally well with 50gr up to 75gr. bullets.
So I am thinking of buying an AR platform rifle and I think I will get a 1-9 twist.  Seems pretty versatile.

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 07:43:15 PM »
I have a savage with 1 in 9 twist--I shoot 45 grain and 50 grain bullets --they shoot real accurate---loads are in the Lyman manual--and I don't shoot max loads--somewhere in the middle range with no problems--the 1 in 9 isn't supposed to shoot the lighter buttets with any accuracy--but mine does. I use IMR powder  4895 and 4198----I'm upstairs and the reloading room is downstairs so I don't have the exact information handy

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2010, 11:15:09 AM »
I've got a 1:9 twist Handi-Rifle and was doing load development for it last week.  27.0 grains of RL15, a Hornady 55 grain V-Max and CCI primer turned in a half-inch group at 100 yards.  I'm pleased.

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2010, 12:50:00 PM »
I have a mossberg SSI 1 in 223  1-9 twist  and it shoots the factory 69 grn targer loads very good but have not loaded any for it yet but will soon

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2010, 05:03:16 PM »
Here we go with twistisitis again.All your faster  twist is doing for you is alowing the use of longer/heavier bullets. All barrels regardless of twist will like and dislike some bullet/load combinations.A faster twist does NOT mean it won't shoot lighter bullets accurately.So if you have a slower twist...just don't use the longer/heavier bullets.

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 04:17:47 AM »
I agree with C&R, your biggest dilemma is going to be how heavy of a bullet will your gun stabilize.  I have a Savage 10PC which I believe is a twin to your gun (20", 1-9).  Mine stabilizes 77 Sierra MK's, but won't shoot 80's worth a darn.  Interestingly, a buddy has a savage .223 varmit rig with a 26" barrel that shoots the 80 MK really well.  I guess the extra 6" of barrel gives him a little more velocity and a faster spin.

FWIW, I saw on another thread recently where a guy claimed his sps tac wouldn't stabilize 75 Amaxes.  I see you have some to try out.  Be sure to let us know if they work in your gun.

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 03:59:04 PM »
84Jim i will let ya"ll know what it likes and dislikes as soon as i get a chance to load up some ammo and get away to do some shooting thanks for the info. i have talked to some local people and theirs seem to like the 69gr. smk the best.

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Re: 223 1/9 twist loads
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2010, 05:48:33 PM »
I have a 1:9 twist, 22" barrel NEF Ultra and it will not stablize the 75 grain bullets.  The favorite load for this gun to date is:

60 Grain Seirra Varmiter
24.4 grain Ramshot TAC
2.37 OAL
Lee Factory Crimp, about 3/4 closed on the die
CCI SR Primer,

Gun also likes the Hornday 55 Grain SPs with 24.3 grn of TAC @ 2.3"

Neither of these are Max loads in my gun.

both of these loads will give about 3/4" 3 shot groups @ 100 yards, probably better with a younger shooter with better eyes.

I am not familiar with your gun so I don't know if these rounds being over 2.26" will be a problem in your gun's magazine or chamber.

I have also loaded these with Varget and it works okay but doesn't feed well in my progressive press, the TAC feeds very consistently.

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