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Offline Merle

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Re: Springfield GI 1911 Misfires
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 03:14:06 PM »
Can't one remove the key lock and circumvent the assorted problems it seems too cause.
I do know that the key lock mechanism can be removed from S&W revolvers.
Sounds like Springfield created problems to provide a fix for something that was not broken.
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Re: Springfield GI 1911 Misfires
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2010, 03:20:12 PM »


 They finally found that it the chamber was cut too deeply. The firing-pin strike lost energy in driving the whole round deeper into the chamber. Not every time, but just enough to cause those odd ones, like that. :D


Which would really show up when those shorter-than-average cases hit the chamber. I've noticed that nearly all of the new brass I buy these days is at (or sometime below) the minimum length. I'm pretty sure it is the same with loaded ammo, but have not checked.

 ???  ???  ???

 

A chamber problem was my first thought as well.  Until you stated it was all factory ammo, I would have guessed that maybe you were roll crimping your loads, a big no no as that cartridge headspaces on the mouth of the case  Without a firm case mouth / chamber fit, you are using your extractor to hold the cartridge in position, which sometimes allows a round to be driven slightly deeper into the chamber, resulting in a lite firing pin hit.  The same symptoms could appear if the chamber is cut slightly deep.  Anyway you slice it, a new gun should work, period.  I'd send it back.

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Re: Springfield GI 1911 Misfires
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2010, 05:00:20 PM »


 They finally found that it the chamber was cut too deeply. The firing-pin strike lost energy in driving the whole round deeper into the chamber. Not every time, but just enough to cause those odd ones, like that. :D


Which would really show up when those shorter-than-average cases hit the chamber. I've noticed that nearly all of the new brass I buy these days is at (or sometime below) the minimum length. I'm pretty sure it is the same with loaded ammo, but have not checked.

 ???  ???  ???

 

A chamber problem was my first thought as well.  Until you stated it was all factory ammo, I would have guessed that maybe you were roll crimping your loads, a big no no as that cartridge headspaces on the mouth of the case  Without a firm case mouth / chamber fit, you are using your extractor to hold the cartridge in position, which sometimes allows a round to be driven slightly deeper into the chamber, resulting in a lite firing pin hit.  The same symptoms could appear if the chamber is cut slightly deep.  Anyway you slice it, a new gun should work, period.  I'd send it back.

Larry


I first became aware of this about two years ago when working up loads for my S&W M625. Maybe half of the factory ammo woud not fire without the moonclips, even though it is supposed to (no extractor there to serve as auxillary headspace); poor ammo, I thought.

I bought  some new brass to resolve the problem & started digging a bit deeper. I finally clued in on it when I started to trim the new brass & the Lee case trimmer wouldn't even touch the case mouth. Took out the mic & discovered the length issues.

I also checked a variety of new rifle & pistol brass and discovered this was pretty much the norm; didn't seem to matter much what brand it was.

At any rate, it is still possible that the chamber is within specs, though at the "max" end - if the ammo is at the "min" dimension, problems are likely.

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