I "think" (UH-OH thats bad) that we're beginning the apples vs oranges discussion here. My Leupolds don't sell under 200 bucks so my comparing them to scopes in that price range isn't quite fair. Finding a scope in the $200 range that can give my Leupolds a run for their money both mechanically and optically would seem akin to a miracle but my mind is not closed to that possibility, no matter how remote the chance.