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#1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« on: August 27, 2010, 09:41:15 AM »
This Senator is worse than McCain at crossing the aisle, and voting Liberal.  We got the word out, and convinced many voters not to go with the incumbent.  But beating Anchorage is hard.  It's close, but we are worried about the final vote counting of the absentee, and question ballots.  Got this off News Max, but it was front page of the Fairbanks Nnews Miner as well.  Rog



Tea Party, Palin Battle GOP Over Murkowski-Miller Outcome



Conservative political phenom Joe Miller is warning that the national Republican establishment is dispatching attorneys to aid incumbent Sen. Lisa Murkowski in the looming battle over absentee votes in Alaska's GOP Senate primary, adding: "It concerns us anytime that somebody lawyers up and tries to pull an Al Franken, if you will."

Republican officials confirmed Thursday that Sean Cairncross, the chief counsel for the National Republican Senatorial Committee, is traveling to Alaska to help Murkowski prepare for the absentee-ballot count on Aug. 31.

"We're up against a machine," Miller told Fox News Thursday evening. "Clearly, they're putting their pressure to bear. But I think we're going to prevail in the end."

Miller stunned political insiders Tuesday when he appeared to edge out Murkowski for the GOP Senate nomination, despite the fact that she outspent his campaign by an estimated 10-to-1 margin.

With all Alaskan precincts reporting in, Miller has a 1,668 vote lead. However, an estimated 7,600 absentee ballots remain to be counted.

Some observers have speculated Miller may be at a disadvantage in the absentee balloting, because absentee ballots were mailed in before the last-minute surge in voter sentiment that appeared to put Miller over the top.
But Miller, a West Point graduate who was awarded a Bronze Star in the first Gulf War, told Fox News Thursday evening that "we feel pretty good about those [absentee ballots]."

Explained Miller: "A high percentage of those are military. We've done very well of course with the military given that I'm a vet, obviously very supportive of veterans' issues."

Miller added however that there appears to be "some game-play going on here with the national Republican Senatorial Committee meddling in our primary election."

Miller said his No. 1 concern at this point is to ensure that all votes cast are counted accurately and fairly.

"It concerns us anytime that somebody lawyers up and tries to pull an Al Franken, if you will," Miller told Fox. "We are very concerned that there may be some attempt here to skew the results."

In November 2008, Franken initially trailed incumbent GOP Sen. Norm Coleman by over 700 votes in Minnesota's Senate race. During the marathon recount battle that ensued, Coleman's lead steadily evaporated as ballots were challenged by each side's attorneys. Franken was ultimately declared the victor by 312 votes.

The Associated Press reported Thursday that Murkowski had requested the help of Cairncross in preparing for the upcoming recount.

Miller said he hasn't seen any suspicious vote-counting activity yet, and expressed confidence that he has a volunteer network "second to none" to help him counter any effort to tip the scales. But he made it clear he does not welcome the involvement of the national Republican establishment on behalf of the well-connected Murkowski.

"Lawyering up with a team of folk from the National Republican Senatorial Committee, it makes you scratch your head and say 'What's really going on here?'" said Miller.

Miller told Fox his campaign "can use as much help as we can get, not just by the volunteer base but also by funding."

Asked what resources he plans to rely on, Miller said: "The Alaskan people. That's what's always been behind us. That's why we've polled the results that have amazed people across the United States."
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 07:36:19 PM »
Now they are saying if she loses the Republican Nomination, she will run on the Liberatarian ticket.
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 09:34:27 PM »
I'm hoping that the vote counting won't get as messy as it did with Frankinstein since it's all Republicans doing the counting. Not that they are more honest but at least their on the same side. Sort of.

I've always thought that the only way we might get the right change in America is to infiltrate the Republican party with Tea Party people. But the GOP is showing their true colors by fighting for their establishment sweethearts. I wouldn't even call Murkowski moderate from what I've heard. I've been getting TP emails about her and Joe for a while. Hope that military vote comes through for Miller!

Good luck up there!!

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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2010, 05:23:04 AM »
If the Republican party allows or helps her steal the election, Every republican that voted for Joe should vote for the Democrat in the general election! The Republican party just seems to refuse to lesson to the people!
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2010, 05:54:30 AM »
beerbelly your idea sounds kinda crazy at first glance. But if I think about it, what would they have to lose by voting for the Dem. In this case the Dem just may be more conservative than Murkowski. And it would make a very good statement to the establishment Repubs.
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2010, 06:39:57 AM »
OKAY, HERE WE GO!

I just got this email from the Tea Party Express;


We have learned that the NRSC (National Republican Senatorial Committee) has sent a team of lawyers and political hacks - including the NRSC's top lawyer - to Alaska to potentially manipulate the vote-counting process in the Alaska GOP Senate race.

Their apparent goal: to help Liberal Sen. Lisa Murkowski steal the election from Conservative Republican, Joe Miller, who currently leads in the vote count.

Joe Miller's campaign has discovered that operatives are even calling absentee voters and asking them how they voted, purportedly so that they can figure out which absentee ballots to throw out (Joe Miller voters) and which ones to keep (Lisa Murkowski voters).

We need to fight back against this attempt to manipulate the election process.  We went through this with Al Franken in Minnesota when the Democrat Party pulled this stunt - we can't stand for it in Alaska with the Republican Party establishment.

Please sign the petition below and then share it with your friends.  We're going to make a big spectacle of this if the NRSC tries to steal this election for Lisa Murkowski.  We WILL hold them accountable.  Sign the petition - HERE.

Note: You may be asked to make a donation to iPetitions after you sign the petition.  You need not do so.  This petition is completely FREE and you can choose to ignore the donation request - it is NOT a request for donations by the Tea Party Express, and your signature will count without you making a donation to iPetitions.



I wanted to draw your attention to this important petition that I recently signed: "NRSC: Count The Votes

Fairly!"http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/countthevotesfairly/ I really think this is an important cause, and I'd like to encourage you to add

your signature, too. It's free and takes just a few seconds of your time. Thanks

 
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2010, 10:17:57 AM »
You think e-mail petitions are useful?? ::)
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2010, 10:43:09 AM »
I thought you were ignoring me?    8)
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 10:51:59 AM »
Saddlebum, the non American puts everyone on ignore but pops in and out to see what they say, send a PM to Matt, I know at one time he said he would ban anyone who commented on something someone they had on ignore said.
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 10:54:23 AM »
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LOL  Damn foreignors.   ;D
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2010, 11:04:10 AM »
Saddlebum, the non American puts everyone on ignore but pops in and out to see what they say, send a PM to Matt, I know at one time he said he would ban anyone who commented on something someone they had on ignore said.


NAW!...... It's no big deal. Thanks for the advise though!!

I just gave someone else a hard time about being thin-skinned. Guess I better practice what I preach.    ;D
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 05:58:05 AM »
I don't know if Petitions help or not, but I signed it and sure hope it helps!
                         
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 12:30:52 PM »
You guys ever notice that there is a Hide and Show button ;)
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2010, 10:40:51 AM »
If they suddenly find a bag of uncounted ballots from a Murkowski friendly area, you'll know that the Dumocrats are helping her out, or that she's learned from them how to win a close one.

 
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2010, 11:05:51 AM »
If the Republican party allows or helps her steal the election, Every republican that voted for Joe should vote for the Democrat in the general election! The Republican party just seems to refuse to lesson to the people!
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Hate to break it to ya but nither side listens well ! It was changed back in the day so they would not have to . Think it was about the time the vice president started comming from ths same party as the president .
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2010, 05:36:30 PM »
They may start lessoning, ol  mama bear just knocked off another RINO! Murkowski just conceded!
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2010, 06:40:52 PM »
Another one bites the dust!
Wonder who her supporters will vote for?
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2010, 09:33:15 PM »
Well I'll be dipped!! I sure thought she'd hold out until ALL the votes were counted. I too wonder what's next. I fear a lot of in-the-middle moderates may jump on the Dem band wagon. That may be the best strategy to keep the huge flood of Fed dollars flowing to Alaska.

Since the election Miller has shot his mouth off on a few items that may drive moderates away - advocating the State taking over Denali National Park for one. What a long shot to bring up so early! Add to that his nasty tone the last days of the campaign may drive off those who don't like that style - can't say I like it.  I agree with him on a number of things but he's gotta sound more rational to get my vote.

And I'm curious if Lisa has something else up her sleeve.  She's got a lot of campaign bucks she should have used instead of saving them.
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2010, 09:18:47 AM »
Got back yesterday just in time to attend our weekly lunch meeting about hunting and fishing issues.  Our elected officials have a direct bearing on hunting and fishing issues.  The head of the Rep Commitee here in Fairbanks also attends our lunch.  He said many people that supported Lisa are in denial, and are mad at the moment.  But after a few days they will calm down and look at the alternative from Sitka.  They will ask "Do we really want to go there".

One of the things Joe Miller is wanting to fight is the Expansion by the National Park Service of all their holdings.  The NPS is trying to control land outside of the park.  They are hostile with many of the residents along the Stampede Trail, whom they have surrounded on three sides.  They bring charges against the residents for using and hunting inside the small strip of State land surrounding their homes.  When these residents leave their property the NPS rangers fly down with their choppers and charge them with trespass.  The NPS personell say they don't rightfully know where the boundries are, but these people should not be where they are.  Joe has been to meetings that I have attended and has heard this.  He is looking out for Alaska Residents.

The NPS and US Fish and Wildlife are looking to annex more land ajoining their parks and refuges, not only here in Alaska but in other states as well.  They currently don't have enough money to take care of what they have, but are looking to expand.  And the NPS is running roughshod over their neighbors.    
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Re: #1 RINO, Murkowski may pull a Franken
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2010, 01:02:57 PM »
Sounds like your Stampede Trail folks have something in common with people in Northern Nevada. Tensions there get to the point of shots being fired sometimes. Come to think of it Utah says the Feds already have too much of their land and they want some back. I guess it is somewhat of a common problem everywhere.

If the Feds had their way, they would own everything including our souls!   :(
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