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Offline P.A. Myers

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New scarey threat!
« on: September 10, 2010, 10:47:56 PM »
Gun owners... look what's on the 2010 tax return




As  if we didn't have enough to get upset about!  If  you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!

It  begins... more Freedom gone... the right to protect  yourself and your family gone!  Now ALL GUNS must  be listed  on your next (2010) tax return! Senate Bill SB-2099 will require  us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns  that you have or own.

It  will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

This bill was introduced on  February 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT, this  bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the  new law becomes effective!  This is an amendment to  the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that  the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all.  Trust Obama?  You must  be kidding!

The  full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate  homepage: www.senate.gov .  You can find the

bill by doing a search by the bill number,  SB-2099.  You know who to call; I strongly suggest  you do.  Please send a copy of this e-mail to every  gun owner you know. Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in  House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale  Act of 2009: www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

Obama's Congress is now starting  on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes,  gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully  comply. It  has begun... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is...  this is just the 'tip of the iceberg!'

Very Important for you to be  aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.  This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of  Sale Act of 2009.

Even gun shop owners didn't know  about this because the government is trying to fly it  under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as  usual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill  before signing and approving it!   To  find out about this - go to any government website and  type in HR 45 or Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm  Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You  will get all the information.

Basically this would make it  illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY  pistol unless:

1) It is registered  2) You  are fingerprinted  3) You supply a current Driver's  License  4) You supply your Social Security  number  5) You will submit to a physical &  mental evaluation at any time of their choosing


Each update change or ownership  through private or public sale must be reported and  costs $25.  Failure to do so you automatically lose  the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year  in jail.


There is a child provision  clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access  provision.

Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18.  They would have the right to  come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is  punishable for up to 5 years in prison.


If  you think this is a joke - go to the website and take  your pick of many options to read this.  It is long and lengthy.  But, more and more people are  becoming aware of this.  Pass the word along.   Any hunters in your family pass this along.

This is just a "termite"  approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming  of our society to the point we have no defense - chip  away a little here and there until the goal is  accomplished before anyone realizes it. This is one to act on whether  you own a gun or not..

http://thomas..loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> <http://thomas..loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45>   :


http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show> <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>


GovTrack.us ) <  "> http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45> <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>


VERIFIED  - TRUE by snopes.com http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp

I dont know how serious this is. It seems like political suicide. Current laws
in many states are similar, but without the tax.

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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 02:00:50 AM »
You need to quit believing snopes, their full of it.
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 04:11:08 AM »
I believe Snopes but I don't believe this.
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 04:18:24 AM »
If it were true, it would be long past due to lock and load and do some tidying up.
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2010, 06:18:17 AM »
If it were true, it would be long past due to lock and load and do some tidying up.

It's long past that point regardless if this were true ;)

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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 06:26:34 AM »
So far it is still constitutionally illegal for such information to be gathered and at this point no guns are "registered" with any Government agency that I know of.   True, if you bought a gun threw a licensed dealer (not a face to face sale, which is still legal within your own state of residency) a record of the sale including make of gun and serial numbers are kept by the dealer. If the Government started to confiscate dealers records in mass I suspect that their would be a lot of 'suspicious' file cabinet fires in gun shops around the country.  :-X    
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2010, 07:17:39 AM »
I read about this some time ago but I believe osamas bill failed. POWDERMAN.  ??? ???
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2010, 07:27:56 AM »


You need to stop taking everything in your e-mail as truth. The NRA addressed this crap a year ago:


http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4925
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 10:51:41 AM »
SMOKIN JOE. True, but according to some here the NRA is worthless. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2010, 02:19:30 PM »
The meter is is great. Now I have one.

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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 03:01:29 PM »
Quote
The meter is is great.

Yeah, I stole it from someplace. Here's a flag to go with it:  ;D





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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2010, 03:10:29 PM »
Dont get too comfortable or apathetic. They can and probably will try this or something similar in the near future.
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2010, 03:17:22 PM »
No doubt they will, but you can't stop it. All you can do is make up your mind as to whether your gonna go along with it.
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2010, 03:26:21 PM »
yep and if enough people refuse to go along with it, all it becomes is a bunch of meaningless words on paper.
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2010, 04:41:44 PM »
exactly right. no way can the govt even attempt to enforce that crap. just the same as they can't enforce our crap laws here. too many unregistered arms in way too many hands
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Re: New scarey threat!
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2010, 05:53:49 PM »
yep and if enough people refuse to go along with it, all it becomes is a bunch of meaningless words on paper.

Correct.  Anyone hear of Prohibition.  The Feds passed a law banning all alcohol and the general populace said yeah right and the Feds eventually had to knuckle under and repeal the law.     
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2010, 01:34:15 AM »
Actually, rather than knuckle under they got a better idea. They taxed the hell out of it, and gave themselves a raise with the new tax income, while the people celebrated what they thought was a win. ::)
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