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Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« on: September 03, 2010, 04:09:22 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/02/islamic-group-asks-army-deny-muslim-soldiers-request-conscientious-objector/

"Muslims serve with distinction throughout the United States Military and AIFD sees Abdo’s traitorous public assertions as a slap in the face to all American Muslims especially those Muslims who fight in our armed forces for the liberty and freedom guaranteed by the American Constitution," the group said in a statement it issued on Friday.

Said Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, president of AIFD: “Abdo’s actions are an affront to every American Muslim who has proudly donned a U.S. military uniform. His assertions are not built on Islamic teachings but on a feeble adherence to the global political ideology of Islamism that threatens our security and radicalizes our Muslim youth.
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2010, 05:29:43 PM »
I saw/ heard this yesterday. This guy joins the military without coercion, then when its time to deploy, he plays the muslim/objector card.  BS . I guess he would have been OK if he would have been sent to Israel to kill Jews! Send the puke to Leavenworth for life!
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2010, 11:19:04 AM »
I wonder how much traffic this subject would have if they had dubbed him "traitor" FOR deploying.
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2010, 06:44:23 PM »
Truth be known they are probably ticked he wants out instead of staying and completing his mission by killing GIs like hassan did at Ft Hood. There is no such animal as an AMERICAN muslim.  POWDERMAN.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2010, 07:17:57 PM »
Interesting.  I think second to the hispanic ethnicity...moslems are third in comprising the ranks of our military, (but not sure). I say give him a CO or ship him off to do other work...nobody understands everything until he is immersed into the middle of a situation...that comes with age.


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no one undestands everything until he is immersed.  thATS A COP OUT "7"!  WHAT DID HE THINK HE WAS JOINING THE SEA SCOUTS. bs FLAG ON THAT, 15 YARD PENALTY AND LOSS OF DOWN!
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2010, 05:19:00 AM »
TM, part of me agrees with what you are saying, but at the same time we've been engaged in this conflict since this kid was 15-16, and he didn't join in a surge of Patriotism like a lot of kids did right after 09/11, he joined up at a time when popularity of the war was at an all time low.  I can't help but think that he, personally, had this "CO" stunt planned out all along.  I could be wrong, but that scenario rings more true to me than  his waking up one day and thinking "Killing is bad, mmmmmkaaayyyy."  I guess that I would be more willing to have "CO" granted to soldiers and sailors that enlisted Pre-2004 than any since and especially in the last 3 years.

And since no one else will say it.  "Clap" for the Islamic group for supporting our military, the US Constitution, and acknowledging the evil and hate generated by the fanatic fringe of their own religion.   
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2010, 10:43:53 AM »


And since no one else will say it.  "Clap" for the Islamic group for supporting our military, the US Constitution, and acknowledging the evil and hate generated by the fanatic fringe of their own religion.  

 I was wondering when and who would comment on this. Kudos to you for bringing it up.
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2010, 10:56:46 AM »
When one enlist during a time of conflict they knowing do so with the understanding they may have to go and do things they don't like.  The use of CO status is wrong, they should have thought about that before they joined.  Now make them go, or put them in Levenworth.  If we still had the draft I could see it, but we don't.
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2010, 11:53:59 AM »
I highley doubt that muslim animals are the 3rd largest group in the military. Whites, blacks and hispanics take up the first 3 slots and from personal experience I would say asian/pacific islanders are 4th. Also muslim animal is not an ethnicity. We did have one or 2 blacks of the calipso Louie brand of islam in our unit, but not enough to put them as a major group. I'm sure old TM is just trying to spread more of his BS.

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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2010, 06:40:33 PM »
By Muslim do you all mean Arabic? Muslim is not a race.  There are white, black, arabic, and asian Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2010, 06:49:27 PM »
Lock him up for life at hard labor. Probably save American lives. No such critter as an American muslim. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2010, 07:50:52 PM »
I'm sure old TM is just trying to spread more of his BS.

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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2010, 08:57:51 PM »
When one enlist during a time of conflict they knowing do so with the understanding they may have to go and do things they don't like.  The use of CO status is wrong, they should have thought about that before they joined.  Now make them go, or put them in Levenworth.  If we still had the draft I could see it, but we don't.

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I was 17 when I joined up  - knew exactly the contract I was signing , and knew exactly what was going to be asked of me if the need arose. He took an oath , signed a contract. Time to  put away the kid toys and Be a man.

Abdo said that in addition to conflicting with his religion beliefs, his military duties were also consuming every part of his day and interfering with his religious duties. "I knew that if I went to Afghanistan and, God forbid, something were to happen, that my faith was so weak that I wouldn't be admitted into heaven," he said.

"We're trying to avoid that kind of showdown," Branum told FoxNews.com. "At this moment, Abdo is in a place where he's not going to violate his conscience."

What Conscience?? He has alrady shown us he is not a man of his word. He has no Conscience . Coward.

-  What a load of crap.... Maybe when this ploy fails he will claim he is Gay.
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2010, 09:18:06 PM »
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2010, 01:27:41 AM »
Maybe Wylie,,,if the kid was 13 or so at 911, then he only knows what he was told.. ;) Maybe he de-programmed himself, or personal analysis led to some epiphany or something....not unusual with young folks.  As for a 'plan' to claim a CO,,,don't know, seems like heap big hassle, and I don't know what he would gain except alot of crap from his peers and anxiety.

What's more interesting is why FOXy News is pimping the story... :D


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  TM;
   While i am pleased to see a Muslim groupo (albeit a small one) showing some  American identification, I heartily disagree that a "twenty-something" is too stupid to know what he is doing when he enlists in the military during wartime. "Twenty-somethings" are involved in many responsible positions in science, medicine and manufacturing..and don't forget, on average our enlisted military personnel have  test scores well above their civilian peers.
  When you claim that Muslims compose a large share of our enlistees...really, you should refrain from pulling statistics out of the air.
  Islam and the rest of the minor religious bodies compose a very small percentage of our troops. Placing all Christian denominations in one group, as was done with Sunnis & Shiites, would make it clear that the overwhelming majority are Christians:

  http://www.isteve.com/2003_Few_Atheists_In_U.S._Foxholes.htm

  This chicken should be sent to face his "brothers" in Afghanistan..but troops serving with him should be warned to always make him "point man" so as not be in front of him when he has a loaded weapon.
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Re: Islamic Group dubs Muslim GI "Traitor."
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2010, 05:07:25 AM »
  Atta TM7 ! :)
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