Winchester 1300

[38MAN]

I was on Winchesters website today to see what's new in their shotgun line. I noticed the 1300 is no longer offered. The 1300 is the last shotgun that I purchased. Anyone know when or why they stopped offering it?

38MAN

[Bigeasy]

I believe it was one of the models, along with the model 70 and the 94 that were discontinued when Winchester shut down its New Haven plant several years ago.  I used to have a 1300, and it seemed like a good, economical pump shotgun.  Traded it for a S&W cased model 29 nickel to someone who didn't know better.

Larry

[dukkillr]

Why?  I have never seen a modern Winchester pump that I would own.  As to the when, I don't know.

[Bigeasy]

Why?  I have never seen a modern Winchester pump that I would own.  As to the when, I don't know.

Well, mine was economical to buy, smooth to operate, never jammed in about the two or three hundred rounds I put thru it, and pointed well.  so why not?

Larry

[38MAN]

Bigeasy, thanks for the support and understanding of small budget minded guys trying to raise a family. Guess all of us can't spend with unlimited budgets and put another guys equipment down. I've run a couple hundred rounds through it without any issues.

[dukkillr]

LOL... the old, "You only insulted my cheap junk gun type X because you're a snob who obviously has gold plated toilets and wipes with $100 bills" argument.  It's as dumb now as it has been every other time I've heard it.  First, it's not true.  Second, it's not logical.  There are quality guns available in the same price range, particularly if you look into the used market.  A good condition used 870 went for $180 near my house yesterday at auction.  That's a solid gun that anyone could own.  It's also a quality gun you could take pride in owning and perhaps even passing on. 

But you asked the question, and I answered it.  I'm sorry if you didn't like the answer.  Wichester pumps since the M-12 are junk.  That's the simple fact.  I grew up a huge Winchester fan.  I still own the classics including several M-12s and a pre-64 70.  I periodically look at 94s.  But the problem is that the quality is gone.  Now they are simply Mossbergs with a more historical name.

Props for going with the "NOT" though.  Wayne's World insults are usually a solid IRS.

[38MAN]

Dukkillr,

My appologies for assuming you were the typical snob. Let me ask you a question; why do you think the quality went away with Winchester?

38man

[dukkillr]

Costs and a declining appreciation for quality.  It is no secret that Winchester has struggled to make money since the early 60s.  It has changed hands, closed factories, and discontinued guns.  I'm not sure they are making any guns any more.  The iconic guns that made Winchester (the M-12, 70, and 94) were also more expensive to produce than the stamped guns Remington and others made.  Winchester has simply made cheaper guns, particularly pumps, at every opportunity since then.

The second factor is that fewer people today care.  Just look around.  100 or even 50 years ago a gun was a piece of your life.  Something you used to feed or protect your family.  American made quality was expected.  Today people just want something cheap that will go bang.  The overwhelming majority of "hunters" wont shoot enough in an entire lifetime to appreciate the difference in quality between an 870 and a 1300.  It's a simple and sad sign of the times.  Call it the Wal-Mart effect, or the increasing urbanization of America, or whatever. 

[saddlebum]

"This gun is made of light weight alloy material which ensures that the gun can be carried very easily and has a weight of around 3.06 kg and is extremely fast swinging. Its four lug rotary kind of lock system is quite similar to AR-15 and this can lock the chamber of barrel firmly, and thus traps the pressure during the peak of any firing cycle. Then the bolt unlocks itself and utilizes the residual pressure in traveling rearwards. This dual action makes sure of smooth chambering and also prevents from binding."
http://www.gunslot.com/guns/winchester-1300

I have a Winchester Repeating Arms 1300 Deluxe Field Grade,"Speed Pump". I like the rotary, 4 lug bolt that assists the slide action when you pull the trigger. Mine is an older one,(before USRAC), that has nice walnut wood and deluxe checkering. It is a good fit for me and makes hitting easier. 28"bbl and interchangable choke tubes. I like it!!

When USRAC changed to Winchester Repeating Arms again and moved to Columbia, SC, they dropped the 1300 and replaced it with the SXP. As near as I can tell the SXP is basically a 1300 complete with rotary bolt in a little more modern,"euro", type design.

I have nothing against the 870, but my favorite pump gun is the model 37 Ithaca Lightweight Deluxe Field.

[spikehorn]

I had a 1300 for years killed plenty of deer and turkey with it. The only thing I ever had to do was replace the magazine spring. I let a friend borrow it and when he changed barrels the spring went flying into the weeds and he couldn't find it.

[jmckinley]

  My all around scatter guns is Walnut stocked 1300, and I love the gun. It may be a POS by some standards but it has never failed to work and I hunt ducks, geese, sandhills, rabbits, quail ect ect with  this shotgun and when I do it right the die, so it may BE JUNK TO SOME BUT I'll buy another  in a New York second. Just my 2 cents. Jess

[luckydawg13]

"This gun is made of light weight alloy material which ensures that the gun can be carried very easily and has a weight of around 3.06 kg and is extremely fast swinging. Its four lug rotary kind of lock system is quite similar to AR-15 and this can lock the chamber of barrel firmly, and thus traps the pressure during the peak of any firing cycle. Then the bolt unlocks itself and utilizes the residual pressure in traveling rearwards. This dual action makes sure of smooth chambering and also prevents from binding."
http://www.gunslot.com/guns/winchester-1300

I have a Winchester Repeating Arms 1300 Deluxe Field Grade,"Speed Pump". I like the rotary, 4 lug bolt that assists the slide action when you pull the trigger. Mine is an older one,(before USRAC), that has nice walnut wood and deluxe checkering. It is a good fit for me and makes hitting easier. 28"bbl and interchangable choke tubes. I like it!!


i like mine too had it 27 years.  i have a 870 to but the safty is in the rong place