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Re: 45-70 BC vs 45-70 Handi { Hunting}
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2010, 04:56:01 AM »
Everyone does understand that the long barrel is no more accurate than the short one.
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Re: 45-70 BC vs 45-70 Handi { Hunting}
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2010, 09:14:50 AM »
Thanks guys for all the insight and info!!!
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Re: 45-70 BC vs 45-70 Handi { Hunting}
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2010, 11:47:02 AM »
This whole barrel length vs. accuracy thing is starting to give me night sweats!  Until recently I had assumed that shorter and stiffer and so, smaller amplitude vibrations = better accuracy.  After looking at experimental results for this and my own recent experience, I am convinced it is way more complicated than that.  For example, I built my own 35 whelen bolt gun starting with an old Savage 110 action.  I ended up cutting the after-market barrel down to 21 inches to balance properly in an old Savage wooden stock.  I even bedded the action, lug, and the rear of the magnum contour barrel.  Result - with my most accurate handloads, no better than 1.5 inches (3-shot groups) at 100 yards.  So...I like the idea of making guns lighter, so I bought a Boyd's featherweight thumbhole stock.  Nothin bedded - result:  same load, one ragged hole at 50 yards, under an inch at 100 yards with consistency.  As far as I can tell, it is just the way the new stock fits - the way it holds on to the recoil lug, how it touches along the barrel, etc., that makes the difference.  If you can do it - I think the best thing is to just find the barrel length that works best for your particular gun.  If you want it short - you may have to try a couple of short lengths to find the sweet spot (start longer and work down, of course) - or a change in stock, a change in forarm pressure, or one of a number of other things may be important to accuracy.  Not sure there is an easy answer to this question.

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Re: 45-70 BC vs 45-70 Handi { Hunting}
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2010, 01:33:17 PM »
Truly, barrel length is not as important as the skill of the person using the gun. It's like the type of sights. I like open sights and don't always remember to adjust 'em if they are adjustable.
As far as toting a heavy rifle, I find the old fashioned cradle it in the crook of the elbow style (as seen in old paintings of Dan'l Boone, etc.) works well at distributing the weight.
Basically, I like the looks of a long barrel and like having distance between front and rear sights. I have never been able to use a scope much.
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Re: 45-70 BC vs 45-70 Handi { Hunting}
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2010, 04:34:59 PM »
Yeah, the 24" SS w/thumbhole stock, that is a sweet gun.  Spikehorn is supposed to get me one for my birthday, hint, hint, hint. ;D

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Re: 45-70 BC vs 45-70 Handi { Hunting}
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2010, 03:26:00 AM »
Spikehorn,

Happy birthday to you too sir! 

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