Drop the nra.

[Range Rider]

We are not blind to what is going on with the Anti-Gun movement.  I must say that their new tactics are better than the old ones.  They started out calling themselves Handgun Control, Handgun violence, and other scary names.  They now call themeselves Citizens for Gun Safety, Hunters for the Second Amendment Etc.  They all sound like good guys right?  They also have become very active on Web Forums as NRA reformers.  They never talk about joining the NRA and voting for reforms with in the NRA.  They cry about the NRA sell out or big spenders of their money.  This is all right out of the new Anti-gunner tactics.  They are either plants or they are reading the misinformation they get from their Unions and other left of center net works.  In the 1960s NRA members felt the organization was going the wrong way.  We got together behind Neal Knox and others and brought about the Revolution at the national meetings in Ohio.  These folks who rant against the NRA if they were really concerned about gun rights would work for change inside the NRA.  They are loved by the left as they claim to be gun owners who hate gun rights advocates.

RR

[saddlebum]

I don't have any market cornered . And keep in mind understanding your point of view is really easy agreeing with it however is harder .
 Let me ask you if we disgard the NRA who will support the gun owners ?

I'd like to drop this thread cause I've said my peace. But I will answer this question since it was a long time since I put up my first post.
In my first post I said that the NRA needs to have their feet held to the fire. Their members need to keep an eye on them. They aren't going anywhere. I am sure that many members don't vote for everyone that the NRA endorses. At least I hope they think for themselves. The NRA will not get disgarded but they need to be scrutinized by their members. Much like we should with elected officials.
The NRA has been around longer but others out there like the GOA are doing a good job too. And from what I hear the GOA is growing pretty good as they prove themselves.

[Range Rider]

I have not seen the GAO lay down money or help in any reform I have worked on.  Would you show me where their support and money is going?  It has been very small at best.  Larry Pratt is a good fellow and I am sure will intended.  You seem to dodge the bullet on this issue.  Why not vote in the NRA elections get involved to make changes from with in the NRA.  You keep complaining about how the NRA votes.  Well how do you vote every year in the NRA elections?  You seem to skip the fact that the NRA is a very small d democratic group.  We have elections every year, or isn't that included in the Anti-NRA agende that you are proposing?

[saddlebum]

IGNORE

[mcwoodduck]

The NRA's support of a candidate is based on their voting record on 2nd Amendment issues, not their stance on abortion, religion, welfare, or any other topic you may consider important.  To imply the NRA is some how anti-gun is just plain ridicules.  If not for the NRA, chances are good legal gun ownership in this country would be a memory.  Nuff said.

Larry

Big Easy,
Not so sure.  Knowing Democrats Hate guns, keeping them in power adds to the NRA's power.  Can't have a dragon slayer till you have dragons.
The more fear that my guns and rights are going to be taken away  the more I will give to them to protect them.
If the Conservitive Republicans are in office and do not have a problem with guns who are the NRA lobbiest going to loby?
If there is no threat there is not reason to mount a defense.  The Lobby side of the NRA gains power and wealth through the fear of a Democrat liberal controlled congress.   the NRA has more to gain with Democrats in charge.  I hate to say it that way but if you are the guy that changes light bulbs the last thing you want is the ever lasting light bulb and will do what ever you need to to keep lights burning out so you can charge to put in new ones.

[myronman3]

I have not seen the GAO lay down money or help in any reform I have worked on.  Would you show me where their support and money is going?  It has been very small at best.  Larry Pratt is a good fellow and I am sure will intended.  You seem to dodge the bullet on this issue.  Why not vote in the NRA elections get involved to make changes from with in the NRA.  You keep complaining about how the NRA votes.  Well how do you vote every year in the NRA elections?  You seem to skip the fact that the NRA is a very small d democratic group.  We have elections every year, or isn't that included in the Anti-NRA agende that you are proposing?

one need to look no further than the last case regarding the gun bans in chicago....with the nra coming in at the 11th hour to ride the coat tails and attempt to claim the glory.  like was said, you are choosing to be blind.   

[mrussel]

The NRA's support of a candidate is based on their voting record on 2nd Amendment issues, not their stance on abortion, religion, welfare, or any other topic you may consider important.  To imply the NRA is some how anti-gun is just plain ridicules.  If not for the NRA, chances are good legal gun ownership in this country would be a memory.  Nuff said.

Larry

Big Easy,
Not so sure.  Knowing Democrats Hate guns, keeping them in power adds to the NRA's power.  Can't have a dragon slayer till you have dragons.
The more fear that my guns and rights are going to be taken away  the more I will give to them to protect them.
If the Conservitive Republicans are in office and do not have a problem with guns who are the NRA lobbiest going to loby?
If there is no threat there is not reason to mount a defense.  The Lobby side of the NRA gains power and wealth through the fear of a Democrat liberal controlled congress.   the NRA has more to gain with Democrats in charge.  I hate to say it that way but if you are the guy that changes light bulbs the last thing you want is the ever lasting light bulb and will do what ever you need to to keep lights burning out so you can charge to put in new ones.

 Really? Nothing to lobby with republicans? What about rolling back current bans? What about eliminating assault weapon import restrictions. What about eliminating the prohibition on manufacturing machine guns for civilian use? Even if every democrat was caught fondling a 15 year old intern tomorrow,come November,there would be plenty of work still to do.

[SHOOTALL]

gun owners themselves.   the nra can not cast a single vote.  i, however, can.   

And you have both the knolege and funds to go to court ? to run ads to inform the voters ?
I vote also but I don't have the funds .

[SHOOTALL]

I don't have any market cornered . And keep in mind understanding your point of view is really easy agreeing with it however is harder .
 Let me ask you if we disgard the NRA who will support the gun owners ?

I'd like to drop this thread cause I've said my peace. But I will answer this question since it was a long time since I put up my first post.
In my first post I said that the NRA needs to have their feet held to the fire. Their members need to keep an eye on them. They aren't going anywhere. I am sure that many members don't vote for everyone that the NRA endorses. At least I hope they think for themselves. The NRA will not get disgarded but they need to be scrutinized by their members. Much like we should with elected officials.
The NRA has been around longer but others out there like the GOA are doing a good job too. And from what I hear the GOA is growing pretty good as they prove themselves.

Do what ?

[Old Fart]

I'm pretty sure neither organization has a problem with you belonging to both.