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Offline Littlepage

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Savage Axis
« on: October 29, 2010, 03:42:48 PM »
Savage changed the name of the Edge to Axis????????

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 04:30:56 PM »
Yeah, I saw that today as well.  Wonder what prompted the change?

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 06:08:05 PM »
edge sounds cool

savage edge sounds like a sword or an axe

savage-edge, savageedge, savage-ag... it blurs together if someone has a mouthful or chew or a drawl.  say it fast, you'll understand.  axis is a stupid name though.  edge was cooler... and it had already caught on.  heck, just call it a rifle.  ???

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 06:10:17 PM »
I bet it has something to do with lawyers.

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 12:37:07 PM »
Yeah, Ford's got an Edge.  And there's an automotive supply company called Edge Products.

Probably had something to do with lawyers.

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 02:39:02 PM »
A guy had one at the range so I held it for a bit. I was surprised how light and well it felt. It didn't seem like a "cheap gun".

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 06:50:52 PM »
A guy had one at the range so I held it for a bit. I was surprised how light and well it felt. It didn't seem like a "cheap gun".

I thought the same thing.  I went into a gun shop just to feel one up, and went in thinking the trigger was gonna be crap because I've read that some online.... the gun looked and felt good.  the trigger was STIFF, heavy and beyond my comfort zone but I cannot recall the scope bobbing around while I pulled it either.  I don't think the pull weight was rediculous but there wasn't any slack to get it going, it was all or nothing.  I honestly do not believe that I'd notice that with jittery "buckfever" finger syndrome though.  I bet the mechanism could be flushed and oiled up enough to get it smooth(er) as it didn't have any creep in the first place.  If I can get ahold of and fire one that HAS been broke in and babied a bit I am almost certain I'll be buying one. 

Anyone done that yet?

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 06:38:52 PM »
The one I got to experiment with last week only moved the crosshairs while pulling the trigger while it was on the bench and only then when it had sandbags front AND rear.Take the rear bag away and the moving crosshair problem went away.1 1/2" groups with factory ammo...not shabby.Bet it will group better with ammo it really likes.

 

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 07:56:09 PM »
It was a conflict with McMillian stocks who have a stock called the EDGE and own the trademark. From what I have read elsewhere no lawyers were involved McMillian simply asked them to change and they did.

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 02:33:55 PM »
so the polymer has enough flex to give a bit if you throw a lot of weight on it, but shooting off a rest or freehand won't flex it?  is that a good thing recoil wise, like with pistols?  also, does it take some of the  abuse off the scope if/when the stock takes the force?  what if the back of the stock is full of birdshot to weight it down?  that would be an option since the sling swivel is what holds the pad on, easy in and out of a sock full of shot.

questions, questions.   ???

chutes, how much weight did you dump onto it, can you give us an approximate picture, possibly pointing out the flex-point?

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2010, 11:05:04 PM »
Can't answer if it's a maybe a good thing.The flex appears to be under the tang.Was putting as much pressure as I'd normally do shooting off the bench for groups and I'm not a big strong guy.With the rifle uncocked was able to pull the crosshairs down around 6" on the target at 100 yards.With it cocked it was hard to tell just how far the movement was,even dry firing,but there was movement.It's really a moot point unless your shooting competition because it grouped satisfactory and had no trouble getting the scope zeroed with only the front bag.

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 04:18:53 AM »
chutesnreloads - you need to check your stock screws to see that they are tight - this action is piller bedded and the barrel is free floated - if all is tight - no way are things moving with trigger pressure.

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2010, 03:44:07 PM »
When getting phone number to call customer service on Savage site today, I too noticed the Edge is now the Axis.  When Savage rep came on phone asked about the Edge/Axis.  I was told someone else had rights to Edge name and they changed name....nothing different about the rifle.  Personally, I was amused with their choice of naming it the Axis....being a retired history teacher, first thing that popped into my mind was golly, named rifle after Germany, Italy, Japan alliance in WWII.  Oh well.

About stock flex problem, something I've experienced with my .223 Savage Edge.  I use a shooting cradle for the rifles I shoot benchrest at range.  It supports my rifles on forestock and just behind the pistol grip area on butt of stock.  Of my 18 or so scoped rifles, it is only with my Edge do I see at least a 1" movement of the crosshair on a 100 yard target when pulling on the trigger.  As I may have mentioned on an earlier post, problem is in area of stock at rear of trigger guard.  Stock is just too thin/weak and cavities in stock contribute to problem.  Merely the weight of pull required to pull trigger when rifle is in my cradle is enought to cause stock to flex vertically.  If I were to rest bottom rear edge of butt on say a table, hold stock near forend with one hand and then take other hand with one finger pressing down on stock behind receiver...I can see rear of trigger guard move further away from stock....gap between two spreads.    As some one earlier mentioned, a shooter not using a cradle or resting rifle on just a front support, may not see such crosshair movement.  This stock flex is bothersome.  However, I still shoot some fairly good groups with my Edge at 100 yard targets.  Busting clay pigeons on our 200 yard berm is easy with the rifle.

Earlier today, I worked on my plastic Edge stock making another attempt to solve stock flex.  May have been successful by removing butt pad and filling wrist area of stock with epoxy putty.  I also removed material I'd used to fill two cavities on opposite side of stock wall from where putty placed with a harder drying material.  Have not reassembled rifle yet to check my work, but stock seems to have less flex when I try to bend it.  If this does not solve problem, may be forced to permanetly attach the trigger guard part to the stock.  Attaching the trigger guard part permanetly will not hamper removal of the barreled action and it will strenghten the weak part of the stock that allows flex.

As for weight of factory trigger pull, don't know what mine was, but toooo heavy for me.  After fashinioning a new trigger coil spring from a 75 cent spring I purchased at local Ace hardware store and polishing the trigger sear area with 1000 grit paper, now have a trigger pull of around 2lbs according to a gent I shoot with who owns a lyman electronic trigger pull gauge.  

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2010, 04:32:28 PM »
Huffmanite ,it was your earlier post that got me to checking the stock flex to begin with.You were right and none the less it still shoots pretty accurate.
 

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2010, 03:50:32 AM »
Well I just don't see this flex problem - mine doesn't but then I put in the Rifle Basix adjustable trigger - it is nice and light and crisp -  maybe with a 10 pound trigger the stock will flex. But I doubt it - probably just the shooting tecnique needs work.

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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2010, 03:37:47 AM »
 ;D I have the Edge/Axis in 223 and have had zero problems with stock flex. Took it to the range using 62 gr SP and shot 3 4 shot groups that ran 3/8, 1/2 and 5/8 of an inch at 100 yards of my bench rest. I put pressure on my trigger 4 1/2 lbs and have zero movement. This rifle drives tacks. I like it so much i see a 7mm-08 in my future. I have thought about filling the stock with expandable foam if i could figure out how to remove the recoil pad. jess
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Re: Savage Axis
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2010, 09:16:32 AM »
Jess, to remove butt recoil pad you need to unscrew the sling eye on bottom of stock and then depress the square button on top of butt, pull on recoil pad and it will come off.  Careful on depressing the square button....when depressing mine enough to release recoil pad assembly from stock I broke mine.

The butt of stock is hollow from recoil pad to wall in wrist with small hole for nub of trigger guard.