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Offline Mack in N.C.

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Son needs new gun
« on: December 28, 2010, 12:19:16 PM »
ok, bought my son a handi rifle (youth model) .243 about 5 years ago....then added a 20 ga barrel.  even though it has a mc stock he put down a lot of squirrels with it......now he has outgrown the youth model and i was thinking of getting the frame fitted to a .308 or something else......Question that i may know the answer to but i want the handi experts opinions on this........if i send it in to get it fitted for new barrel thats aprox 100 bucks plus he's gona nned a new stock....thats 35-50 i am guessing plus then i am going to have a hard time selling the short youth .243 barrel and the 20 ga barrel, so it seems like  it would be best to sell whole outfit to some one with a child and start over with a new rifle..........any thoughts...........thnaks for any replies ..mack
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 12:25:28 PM »
When you consider the real cost of an accessory rifle barrel of about $150 after the cost of shipping both ways and paying the fitting fee and tax, buying a complete rifle definitely has it's advantages.

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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 02:17:19 PM »
Unless you are strapped for cash I'd consider keeping it and having a new barrel fitted to it.  Buy a used stock from the classifieds and you are good to go.  He'd have a shotgun, a .243 for varmints and the new barrel.  I guess I'm saying that you could have 3 guns or sell it and have one. :o
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 02:38:39 PM »
IF the 243 is accurate I would just buy a used adult stock set off the classifieds.  Then he will still have his rifle/shotgun combo and if  you sell the youth stock set you will not be out much money.   Of course the laws of being a Handiholic apply, so you have to buy another Handi even if you don't really need one. ;D

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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2010, 04:01:16 PM »
I would feel hypocritical offering advise on this one, as I started out upgrading a youth 243 a few years ago, and now have a closet full of Handi's and daily peruse the classifieds "just in case".  As of now, I need another SB2 frame, and one of those rollover stocks from GSI, and a few dozen other trinkets.......it never works out evenly. :D


In truth, you should look at the idea of fitting a barrel yourself, and finding one on the classifieds, and then you would have a nice combo.....

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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2010, 04:56:42 PM »
I would add an adult sized non- monty stock. That would fix the shotgun side of things and if the youth 243 has open sights the non monty would work fine. And look for a used barrel that has sights AND a scope rail so he really does feel he has options. Unless he just plain wants a different gun, then your kind of stuck.   thejanitor
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 07:16:19 PM »
Just buy a new rifle and keep the youth model for your (later down the road) Grandson.
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 09:02:21 PM »
What Tommie D said. 

Get him a 30-06, a gun he will be able to use for life, anywhere he goes in North America.  I live in Alaska, and the 30-06 Handi is my go to gun year round.  Yes, it's killed Grizzlies and Moose, plus Whitetails in Tennessee.
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 06:04:02 AM »
IMHO, keep it, get a non-MC c/w recoil pad off the classifieds and have him use it like that for a season while you shop for another 'bigger' centerfire.
The older I get the less I'm inclined to carry rifle weight over the trail, and a bunch of guys here bob them or go to the light barrel models too. I suspect that later on he will love still having that rifle with all its memories.
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 08:13:20 AM »
My oldest grandson is growing like a weed and had pretty much outgrown his youth .243, so I bought a Pachmayr slip-on recoil pad that added 1/2" to the length of pull.  Just right for one season.  I'll be getting him a new rifle, and the youth model will be handed down the line to #2 grandson and subsequently to #3 and #4 when the time is right.
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 11:38:22 AM »
+1  for Brewster!!   I still use my old 20ga I got for christmas 20 years ago, now it just has a cheapo slip on recoil pad duct taped on.  (those elastic shell holders on the stock cover the tape)
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 11:59:03 AM »
No need for tape with the small-size Pachmayr.  Very snug fit.  Put it on right over the stock recoil pad.  With a 7 year spead on the 4 boys, it will be a good return on investment.
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 02:35:46 PM »
I think it is an Ohio law that all breakopen shotgun must have duct tape on the stock. ;D  Gotta come clean, I put camo duct tape on a beretta autoloader so I could turkey hunt about 10 years ago.  As long as the gun shoots straight it don't matter what it looks like.

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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 04:00:28 PM »
Red Green would be proud 'o you boys........
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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2010, 03:52:26 AM »
My reload/gun room has been named the "Possum Lodge" by my wife.  I don't mind because she doesn't have a nephew named Harold. ::)

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Re: Son needs new gun
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2010, 05:36:18 AM »
I've never been a good economist, so ya probably need to take this with a grain of salt.  I'm also a hoarder and a scrounger.  I keep a lot of stuff I don't see a near future use for.  That being said, I'd shop the internet and buy a complete rifle, pick up an adult stock here in the classifieds, and keep the youth stock for a kid down the road.  If you buy a non-factory fit barrel, you may have to modify the frame.  If you do, the original barrels won't fit properly.  A new rifle isn't too much more than factory barrel, and you have more bang for your buck.  All the above is how I get in trouble with my wife from time to time.

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