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Top Punches for WFN
« on: November 22, 2010, 06:22:47 PM »
Hi everybody. I'm new to the sight, but have been lurking for awhile. Now that my greeting has gone out I will proceed with my question.

Mr. Smith,

        Where can I get top punches to fit your molds?

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Re: Top Punches for WFN
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 07:10:37 PM »
  I make them for RCBS and Lyman sizers.  Star sizers  work fine with flat punches, whether pushing them nose first or base first.  If you have a Saeco, the only recoarse is to modify the largest punch Saeco offers.  I can help with instructions for doing that if it is what you need a punch for.

  If you need a punch for any bullet that comes from a mold with the LBT logo stamped on, send a sample bullet from each mold, the specifications stamped on the mold(s) and $10 per punch, plus $5 shipping for any number of punches.  All the above is needed because I make so many custom molds, with any number of variations on the nose, and, diameter is always custom.  With a sample in hand I'll fit a punch around it that won't mark the bullet when you size.

  Perhaps most readers of this forum aren't aware but I make bullets up to 8 guage, have made quite a few shotgun slugs (solid base, not hollow), and fit up bullets for almost any antique or foriegn gun.  I don't list all this in my website, which only has maybe 1/4 of what I offer.  If any of you have a gun that needs a bullet, yell, and i can probably fix you up with a top quality performer.
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Re: Top Punches for WFN
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 07:32:00 PM »
Thank you for the answer. I have a lyman 4500.

If I order a mold from you can I just put a note with the order for a top punch and add the $ with the mold price? I didn't see them on your order form.

Now to my next question. I have a freedom arms model 83 field grade with a 7 1/2 inch barrel chambered in 454 Casull. I have been casting with a lee rnfp, but the quality just isn't there. I would like to go with a WFN in 250 grains for plinking (yes I enjoy plinking with the 454) and for hunting deer. I have read the info on your site and spent too much time on this site reading as well. I understand slugging the barrel and cylinders, but is fire lapping necessary? Sorry to bombard you with all of these questions, but my dad always said "If you want the RIGHT answer ask the experts."

I just have to say it. I am new to casting, but on all the forums I lurk on about casting your name is always at the top for who to deal with for molds etc. Thank you.

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Re: Top Punches for WFN
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2010, 07:18:00 PM »
  Yes, ask for a fitted punch when you order and include the $10 fee.  This is the best way, as I make it to fit the actual diameter of the mold I make for you, and you'll have it when the mold arrives, rather than having to mail off another order.

  I can make you a 250 gr bullet mold, with pb or gc.  FA revolver have very tight chambers and cylinder throats, all of them.  You pay for that precision and they deliver, but barrels are always oversize, so lapping the bore will do nothing if the cylinder throats are not opened up, which also demands opening the chambers!  I've only known of one man who did it in my 30 years of mold making, and he obtained stunning accuracy for his efforts.  But these guns shoot very well in stock condition.  Order a 452 bullet diameter, which probably won't need sizing smaller that that with the light weight, which cannot have a long nose length tha would put the first drive band out into the throats.  In other words, try sizing 452 and if they chamber without resistence, shoot them that size, but if they stick in the throats, size to .451.

  FA intentionally makes their barrels oversize to reduce pressures with jacketed bullets, as the 454 is intended to run at very high pressure.  For cast, just work up a load that shoots and when you see accuracy tighten you'll be at the 'sweet spot', where the bullet bearing expands from the back end forwards for about half the bearing length.
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