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Thompson center Icon
« on: November 10, 2010, 01:28:57 PM »
Ordered a Icon today 270. Anyone know if there is any aftermarket clips out there. And if anyone has one how do they shoot?   Thanks Rockislandrod.

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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2010, 03:53:46 AM »
 Got my Icon in , First group(3 shots) .7". So far like it a lot.    Rod

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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2010, 07:20:16 AM »
Rod,
I got a TC venture in 270, so barrel and receiver are the same (I was told).  Mine likes handloads, Sierra 130 SBT over 57.2 of Re22, with WLR in RP brass.  Length is set to 2.800" to Ogive using comparitor.  This loads shoots about 0.5"-0.6" every time I try it.
Mine also shot the Rem factory 130 gr stuff into about an inch.
Best of luck,
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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2010, 04:33:10 PM »
Hello deerandock. That first group I used 59gr 4831,nosler130bt,win case,cci250m at 3.42oal.....Rod

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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2010, 12:58:53 PM »
Been looking real hard at the Icon and Veture.  What do you think of yours so far?
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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2010, 03:05:48 AM »
Hello one eye.  Iam sixty years old , had many rifles, been a big hunter all my life, best Ive ever owned....Got one of my best bucks ever this year (18 point Okla. white tail) with it......Rod

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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 03:50:48 AM »
Hello one eye.  Iam sixty years old , had many rifles, been a big hunter all my life, best Ive ever owned....Got one of my best bucks ever this year (18 point Okla. white tail) with it......Rod
Thanks for the quick response and feedback.
Congrats on the nice buck!
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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 04:41:15 PM »
I would heartily advise any new T/C owners buy extra mags & spare parts NOW - since S&W announced this week that they're closing the T/C plant in Rochester, NH.

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Thursday, December 9, 2010

ROCHESTER — Springfield, Mass-based Smith & Wesson Holding Corp is relocating its Thompson/Center Arms operations from Rochester, N.H., to its Springfield, Mass. facility, according to the City biz Real Estate website.

The site posted the news late Wednesday night.

Foster's Daily Democrat has learned the company bused its employees to a meeting at the Governor's Inn Restaurant around 4 p.m. Wednesday. At the meeting company representatives were reported to have said the Thompson/Center Arms facility would be closed over a period of about nine months.

The closure will effect approximately 250 employees, some who may be offered the opportunity to move the company's Springfield operation.

Foster's also learned over the next couple of weeks there will be meetings with employees to discuss severance issues and the possible relocation of some local workers to Springfield. Employees were also told the company was continuing to look for a buyer for the foundry at the Rochester facility.

According to its most recent annual report, the company owns three manufacturing facilities in its firearm division. Its principal facility is the 530,323-square-foot Springfield plant. It also owns a 38,115-square-foot plant in Houlton, Maine, and the 160,000-square-foot plant in Rochester.

The bulk of the $9 million of estimated cash outlays associated with the relocation will occur in the second half of 2011, and those outlays are expected to be recovered in approximately 24 months. The relocation is scheduled to commence in January 2011 and conclude by November 2011.

As a result of the relocation of its Thompson/Center Arms operations, Smith & Wesson expects to record future expense of approximately $6 million, consisting of approximately $3 million for personnel-related exit costs and approximately $3 million of other facility-related shutdown costs, including costs for moving and facility preparation.

The Springfield facility is primarily used to manufacture handguns and rifles; the Houlton facility is primarily used to manufacture handcuffs, restraints, .22-caliber pistols, metal center-fire pistols, and the Walther PPK and PPK/S pistols; and the Rochester facility is used primarily to produce hunting rifles, black powder firearms, interchangeable firearm systems, and long gun barrels.

The company also owns a 56,869-square-foot facility in Springfield that it uses for the Smith & Wesson Academy, a state-accredited firearm training institution, a public shooting facility, and a retail store; and a 6,000-square-foot retail facility in Rochester.

The company leases office and manufacturing space at four facilities in its perimeter security division. The facilities are all located within a quarter mile of each other in Franklin, Tenn. The total space leased is 61,509 square feet.

The company also leases 2,800 square feet of office space in Scottsdale, Ariz., which houses its investor relations department as well as offices for its board of directors, and 577 square feet of office space in Washington, D.C., which houses certain executive staff. Both of these leases expire on Dec. 31, 2010.

Smith & Wesson acquired Rochester, NH-based Thompson/Center Arms, Inc., a privately held, New Hampshire-based designer, manufacturer and marketer of hunting firearms, for $102 million in cash in 2006.


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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2010, 12:19:33 PM »
Rangr44, Thanks for the up date......Rod

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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2010, 09:41:36 PM »
I would heartily advise any new T/C owners buy extra mags & spare parts NOW - since S&W announced this week that they're closing the T/C plant in Rochester, NH.

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Thursday, December 9, 2010

ROCHESTER — Springfield, Mass-based Smith & Wesson Holding Corp is relocating its Thompson/Center Arms operations from Rochester, N.H., to its Springfield, Mass. facility, according to the City biz Real Estate website.

The site posted the news late Wednesday night.

Foster's Daily Democrat has learned the company bused its employees to a meeting at the Governor's Inn Restaurant around 4 p.m. Wednesday. At the meeting company representatives were reported to have said the Thompson/Center Arms facility would be closed over a period of about nine months.

The closure will effect approximately 250 employees, some who may be offered the opportunity to move the company's Springfield operation.

Foster's also learned over the next couple of weeks there will be meetings with employees to discuss severance issues and the possible relocation of some local workers to Springfield. Employees were also told the company was continuing to look for a buyer for the foundry at the Rochester facility.

According to its most recent annual report, the company owns three manufacturing facilities in its firearm division. Its principal facility is the 530,323-square-foot Springfield plant. It also owns a 38,115-square-foot plant in Houlton, Maine, and the 160,000-square-foot plant in Rochester.

The bulk of the $9 million of estimated cash outlays associated with the relocation will occur in the second half of 2011, and those outlays are expected to be recovered in approximately 24 months. The relocation is scheduled to commence in January 2011 and conclude by November 2011.

As a result of the relocation of its Thompson/Center Arms operations, Smith & Wesson expects to record future expense of approximately $6 million, consisting of approximately $3 million for personnel-related exit costs and approximately $3 million of other facility-related shutdown costs, including costs for moving and facility preparation.

The Springfield facility is primarily used to manufacture handguns and rifles; the Houlton facility is primarily used to manufacture handcuffs, restraints, .22-caliber pistols, metal center-fire pistols, and the Walther PPK and PPK/S pistols; and the Rochester facility is used primarily to produce hunting rifles, black powder firearms, interchangeable firearm systems, and long gun barrels.

The company also owns a 56,869-square-foot facility in Springfield that it uses for the Smith & Wesson Academy, a state-accredited firearm training institution, a public shooting facility, and a retail store; and a 6,000-square-foot retail facility in Rochester.

The company leases office and manufacturing space at four facilities in its perimeter security division. The facilities are all located within a quarter mile of each other in Franklin, Tenn. The total space leased is 61,509 square feet.

The company also leases 2,800 square feet of office space in Scottsdale, Ariz., which houses its investor relations department as well as offices for its board of directors, and 577 square feet of office space in Washington, D.C., which houses certain executive staff. Both of these leases expire on Dec. 31, 2010.

Smith & Wesson acquired Rochester, NH-based Thompson/Center Arms, Inc., a privately held, New Hampshire-based designer, manufacturer and marketer of hunting firearms, for $102 million in cash in 2006.


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From my understanding the T/C plant is being relocated from Rochester,NH to Springfield,MA....although it sounds like the majority of the workers are getting the shaft.  Hopefully S&W will not let the quality of T/C firearms suffer because of this.

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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 02:17:06 AM »
What's the bet that what is not written in those reports is that production will be outsourced to somewhere like China?

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Re: Thompson center Icon
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 08:25:38 AM »
What's the bet that what is not written in those reports is that production will be outsourced to somewhere like China?

If you read the whole article at the website, it says that the T/C plant is being moved into an existing S&W plant in Springfield.  Hopefully that is true.

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 08:28:12 AM »
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Hopefully that is true

As you say hopefully. Perhaps I am a sceptic but somehow I don't believe a lot of these releases.

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 11:31:56 AM »
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Hopefully that is true

As you say hopefully. Perhaps I am a sceptic but somehow I don't believe a lot of these releases.

Smith & Wesson has been American made since the mid 1800's.  Hopefully this will continue.  However, profit is what matters most to these companies, so it would not be a shock if they pull a stunt like that.

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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 11:52:58 PM »
Smith & Wesson is also owned by a big venture capital company, it's a US one now and has been for a few years but previously they were owned by the same holding company who owned Parker-Hale and in fact when Modular Industries brought parker-Hale they thought they had brought S&W as well. Nope they had not and obviously had not checked up on it properly. Strange thing is that BMW did the same thing in buying Rover they thought they had acquires land Rover as well but nope.

The reason they are selling off the plants is because the land is worth more I'll wager. It's called assest stripping and that's why Parker-Hale was sold to Modular Industries but before that all excess land was stripped off and sold first.

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2010, 07:59:35 AM »
Yep - I would venture to opine that S&W bought T/C so they could own, then learn, then strip the investment casting & barrel-making side of the business - then toss the rest, along with any collatteral damage employees.

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