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Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« on: December 07, 2010, 12:50:16 AM »
  Let's hope this scam has finally played out. It will return again though..just like the legends of the "Holy Grail" keep regenerating every 50 years or so..whenever there is a new generation to fleece.. ;) :D
  The scam I am referring to is the "Global Warming" scam. The big lie-fest at Cancun was a bust. 
   
      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/2/pruden-turn-out-the-lights-the-party-s-over/

   I don't know if Al Gore showed up, but many of his fan club stayed away..
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 01:05:25 AM »
  Now, Al Gore can take his place in the lineup...as one of the greatest Flim-Flam guys in history. He has rounded up the gullible from around the world and brought them into his 'flock'. Then he systematically "fleeced the flock".
   Now he laughs all the way to the bank..and the flock are wondering....  What happened ?
   Perhaps just to place an exclamation point on the Cancun failure, the Great "I AM"..visited the baliwyck of the Anglia University which helped most to promote the global warming scam...and gave them a short reminder as to who is really boss in this universe:

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/215510/Britain-is-freezing-to-death
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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 01:36:23 AM »
Well I hope the stake is firmly driven through the heart of this one. Maybe we can keep light bulbs that work. How many of the big names that were on board do you suppose were in it for the money, and how many were just dumb? Either way all politicians who were on board should be fired, they were either greedy or dumber than the average citizen from flyover country.

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 03:02:47 AM »
IRONGLOW. Shame on you, dontcha know he invented the internet??? POWDERMAN.  :D :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 04:17:58 AM »
No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on climate change

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

I find it amusing that someone who cites every major intelligence group as proof that there were WMDs in Iraq will ignore the findings every major scientific group in the world.

It's not about Al Gore, the Bible or BS articles in the Washinton Times (not to be confused with the Washington Post), it's about proven science.



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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 05:24:06 AM »
Temps have varied and changed since the beginning of time, thats all they are doing now. We had an unusually record setting hot and dry summer, now for the past several weeks it has been colder than usual, well below normal. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 06:31:07 AM »
Crusry, You mean the proof provided by the scientists who were e-mailing back and forth about how to phoney up their data to get the results they wanted.

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 07:04:49 AM »
Global warming and Global cooling are natural earth cycles.  My eldest sister ask me my thoughts when G warming was the topic de jour.  I ask her, do you think the last ice ages ended when neanderthals went around riding large flatulence producing mastadons instead of riding smaller, more grass efficient critters? Or, did it end through a natural cycle of warming?  Europe has in the past heated and cooked the whole of the area with wood and coal for centuries past, has the snow stopped falling, the ice fields on Mt Blanc dissapeared, acid rain melted the buildings into the landscape? The planets temperatures rise and fall comensurate with earths, not to the extremes, but fluctuate they do. Do migrant spacemen inhabit these planets periodically as shown by the planets rises in temperature?  Biologists a few years ago planted lynx hairs here in the northwest in a cheap attempt to get their beloved forests shut down to peoples access.  Global warming and cooling, it just happens.  In no way am I saying that man has not caused changes to our environment,I find it silly that man is so arrogant to think he has such a large impact on something so vast.

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 10:05:46 AM »
No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on climate change
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

I find it amusing that someone who cites every major intelligence group as proof that there were WMDs in Iraq will ignore the findings every major scientific group in the world.

It's not about Al Gore, the Bible or BS articles in the Washinton Times (not to be confused with the Washington Post), it's about proven science.





  Crusty;
  Proven science to you perhaps, but as I said, Al Gore has suckered in the gullible among the population. You even furnish a link to the university that as caught lying and cooking the books...  How often does a person or group have to lie before you call them what they are.. a liar ?
  I want to thank you for your photo of global warming doubters.  Please enjoy the photo I furnish below, of GLOBAL WARMING BELIEVERS...
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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2010, 12:54:12 PM »
IG, I'm no mod but you should pull that picture! It is not child friendly and is offensive. And yes I agree with you on global warming ... Its weather

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 01:02:55 PM »
IG, I'm no mod but you should pull that picture! It is not child friendly and is offensive. And yes I agree with you on global warming ... Its weather

  Squirrelluck;
  Since you asked, I tried to pull the pic but couldn't find any way of doing it.
   In reality, what is shown there that is more outrageous than everyday TV fodder..bare arms & shoulders and about as much bare thigh as one would see every day on "Baywatch"..  Do you see something I don't see ?
   However, if Matt or GB find it offensive they are sure welcome to pull it..I can't find a way.
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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 01:24:17 PM »
Thanks  Yes, I know it is no more than is on tv now days so I dont pay for tv But this is graybeard and I like to believe we have higher standards than hollywood.

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2010, 01:31:17 PM »
No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on climate change

... the findings every major scientific group in the world.

Prove that please; specifically that "no scientific body of ... standing" has held a dissenting opinion. I'd genuinely appreciate some facts to base that statement since so many people are throwing that concept around like its gospel.

Global warming is one of the most violent and intrusive religions held in the enlightened west, requiring greater faith based on less evidence that most of the world's traditional religions. Forgive me if I am skeptical. The same scientific body told us in the 70s that an Ice Age was coming, and global cooling would destroy the earth's food supplies if we didn't stop using freon and aersols. I recognize that science has made some progress in 40 years, but I wouldn't think it would've been a total reversal in predictions - that's a very large margin of error. I also happen to know that there are numerous respected scientists exploring the consistent drop in temperatures at the poles, and the growth of sea ice in the north pacific as the result of cooling temperatures.
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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2010, 02:50:17 PM »
Well, global warming, global cooling, whatever, I never had anyone convince me that emptying my wallet would change the temp on a planet spinning around a star with a shelf life. Let's just keep our money if we can, give thanks for every day we have on a planet that hasn't turned inside out or come apart yet.  Heck the core of this planet is about as hot as the surface of the sun isn't it? And they are complaining about a degree or two?  :D  How do people get so arrogant that they think they can change something this big and complicated...with our money? They are truely basket cases or crooks. This planet has gone through massive changes already, with no people on it at all.  Gee...what do ya think did that?  I personally think the global warming people need to see counselors, they have huge issues.     

Better off having a beer and and not worrying about such things.     

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2010, 03:50:37 PM »
TN- "No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion" came from the wikipedia article in my first post. I will leave it to others to disprove the statement.

That's not to say there are no disSenting opinions from individuals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

Climate change is about the current rate of change not the undisputed fact that the climate has changed in the past

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2010, 05:52:59 PM »
So I dug into your last post Crusty and discovered lo and behold, the individuals listed are all representative of bodies of scientists on staff of institutions of higher learning, publishing, and doing research in the field. It appears that the only body in favor of global warming is the IPCC, while there are numerous international and national bodies of scientists in practical and academic arenas who dissent. Thanks for the second link!
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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2010, 04:20:24 AM »
  The folks claiming global warming have been rather subdued lately..ever wonder why, other than that they have been caught lying ? The fact is, the earth has been cooling for about 10 years ! Here is the official report, sounds like their gravy train is slowing...except for the 'Global Warming Faithful'.
   http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=5ceaedb7-802a-23ad-4bfe-9e32747616f9
   Seems like only the lemmings are left, such dogged faithfulness to one man's pronunciations, we haven't seen since Jonestown...  In recent years, even the Gorites have seen the "writing on the wall"...and tried to change horses in the middle of the stream, now calling their crusade object "climate change".
  Of course their critics have said all along that our climate 'changes'..one would have to be stupid to believe otherwise. What happens in the interior and on the exterior of our sun affects our weather more than some CO2 can .
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2010, 04:38:38 AM »
Crusty;
  I have lived long enough to have seen some major changes in "scholarship". Perhaps 40 years ago, if a notable university did a "study" on a given subject one could fairly well rely upon the study being done in a fair and impartial way. In later decades I have been convinced that this is no longer necessarily true. I believe it was exposed by such 'studies'  as the saccharine vs sugar studies. One university claimed they had done a study of saccharine vs sugar, and found that saccharine caused cancer.  Delving into the study we find that some RATS developed cancer after consuming regularly, the same comparative amount of saccharine as a human drinking 800 saccharine sweetened soft drinks every day.
  I thought..perhaps that much sugar would also kill a person..  Next, I decided to see who had sponsored and paid for the study..sure enough, it was a sugar growers assn. !The same game was played with cranberries.. cranberries were pronounced "cancer causing' and then "cancer preventing" ; all within the same decade !
  More often, it appears if you have the $$$, you can get somebody to commission a study..and come up with the answers you wish for.

  Here's some more info..a scientific look at "global warming";
  http://www.climatecooling.org/
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2010, 05:02:24 AM »
Even in the field I worked in you can't trust  "scientists" anymore. Some "biologists" were caught manufacturing data to prove the point they had a vested interest in. They were supposedly studying lynx reintroductions in Colorado.

There ought to be a special punishment for folks who lie with data, instead often there is no punishment at all except for maybe a loss of reputation. Loss of reputation probably isn't a big deal for the type of person they are. Now they are known as a person that is willing to sell out which enhances their resume in some circles.

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2010, 06:37:13 AM »
bilmac, i wonder if that was the same crowd that was "operating" in OR?

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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2010, 12:56:23 PM »
The entire Endangered Species act has been bastardized to become a cash cow for university eggheads.

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Re: Be sure your sin will find you out (Num 32:23b)
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2010, 05:12:43 PM »
If global warming is worse this winter than last winter, I won't be able to afford enough house gas to make it to spring.

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