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Offline petemi

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Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« on: December 31, 2010, 04:01:18 AM »
I don't know.  Should I cut my .445 to 18 inches and put it on a BC Carbine stock?  Am I going to mind the recoil?  I love the other BC Shorties.
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 04:29:00 AM »
Good Morning Pete,
I don't have a 445 so I cannot tell you from experience but
there is only one way to find out! Happy New Year!
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 04:31:17 AM »
Pete,
 Recoil won't change any, it will have a bit more precieved report. But will be MUCH HANDI - ER!!!  ::) ::)

I say YES go for it!!!

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 04:33:19 AM »
if your going to cut....
just go to 16,5  with a pistol round


rifle  round????
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 04:33:49 AM »
Happy New Year Pete and Patty!  Give it a try, if it's too much, won't take long to change it out. ;)  You can always put a Limbsaver slip-on pad for plinkin with, take it off when hunting.  DP
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2010, 04:42:25 AM »
I have to agree, if you are going to go down, go to 16.5, the extra 1.5 " will make it handle easier but not perform noticeably less. If it was a 22-250 or something maybe yes, but not straight cases. I have even thought about getting the muzzle threaded for some type of flash supressor  or something to reduce the muzzle blast a bit but have not decided on what.
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2010, 04:47:51 AM »
Go for it. Looks like a sweet project. It may be blasphemy but you always could put a recoil pad on it instead of that steel but plate.

The BC look in my opinion comes from the straight grip anyway.

Very nice looking handi's.
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 04:55:36 AM »
I think I'm gonna go for it.  My 16.5 .357 maxi sure is Handi.  In fact all 3 of them are; the 18 inch .38-55 and the standard .45LC are all sweet swinging.

Thanks guys,

Happy New Year

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 04:58:45 AM »
I had an extra set of BC wood and WAS going that route with my most recent shorty too... but I liked the feel and light weight of that handi grip too much. As a rule, I am not a fan of the plastic anything on a firearm. But I look at the Handis as a tool and frankly the plastic stocks work very well with them.

Maybe give that a try?

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2010, 05:12:38 AM »
CW,
I have seen the posts of your handi's they all look great. It is a tough choice between the BC and the composite grip.

Pete,
I don't think you can go wrong whichever direction you head.

I just ordered a 357 mag that is going to get the BC stocks. Yep it is going to get maxified also.
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2010, 06:03:02 AM »
All I can tell ya is the BC Carbine stocks are SWEEEEET on pistol calibers.

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2010, 06:04:57 AM »
I have been thinking about that myself, I just got a 22" 44mag barrel and am giving a lot of thought to making a shorty 445 Super Mag out of it. so I say go for it  and give us the details  so I will know what to do ;D

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2010, 06:33:37 AM »
Quote from: nova71 on December 31, 2010, 06:04:57 AM
I have been thinking about that myself, I just got a 22" 44mag barrel and am giving a lot of thought to making a shorty 445 Super Mag out of it. so I say go for it  and give us the details  so I will know what to do ;D

Larry(nova71)

Larry, I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and send it out to Wayne York at Oregunsmithing and let him do it.  In the meanwhile, I'll hunt down a BC Carbine stock for it.  I am really not equiped to cut it off square, recrown it and blue it.  I don't own a lathe or a drill press.  Tim rented the reamer and did the .445 part of it.  That much I'm sure you could do yourself.

Is your barrel an old or new one?  Overbored or not?  If it is an older overbored one, like mine, A Lee Factory Crimp Die is essential if you want to reload oversized bullets, especially in cut down or Winchester brass.

The .445 is a fantastic caliber to shoot and enjoy.  Do it.

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 02:24:41 PM »
Pete, Its as easy to shorten as reloading is..........
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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 04:45:57 PM »
I don't know if the barrel is old or newer, I got if off this forum and he didn't know either, it was drilled and tapped for sights and a scope mount. I ordered some Cerrosafe chamber casting alloy and will try to cast the chamber to see if it is oversize, that's the only way I know to check it. if it is I'll for sure make it a 445  ;D

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2011, 12:00:44 AM »
Larry, it's the barrels that are overbored in the older .44s.  Check the year of manufacture and that'll give you the best clue.  I'm loading .433 Gas checked Semi Wad Cutters from Montana Bullet over 32 gr H110 running I believe 1580 by the chrony.  They shoot well in my older barrel.

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2011, 04:00:13 AM »
Pete,

A 16.5" 445 SM Carbine will look GREAT!  You will not miss the barrel length once you add the 22" 444M to your stable. ::)

BTW, I don't think it is politically correct to refer to one of your guns as a "shorty".  How about velocity challenged or mobility improved?

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Re: Question: .445 Super Mag BC Carbine Shorty??
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2011, 04:43:54 AM »
Tom, Happy New Year.  Believe me the .444 and .500 are coming.......don't be too surprised if they get shortyitis too.

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