obama, we are not at war with islam?????

[powderman]

tm#2. You still don't have it right. It's GWOI, global war on islam, not gwot. My goodness you learn slow.  POWDERMAN. 

[Pat/Rick]

TM, I have been going to some of the sites from the link you provided. Very interesting info and hypothesis on events listed. Thanks again.

[elhoward622]

Yea, it does make you wonder.  I read a book over the summer talking about the CIA blackmailing MLK by recording his affairs with women and trying to other operations to try to hamstring the civil rights movement.  Or the FDR-Pearl Harbor conspiracy for the grandaddy of em all.

[ironglow]

Thousands of conspiracy theories...and surely a dozen or two have some merit !

[Pat/Rick]

+1 TM. Foil hats, right wing wacko's, conspiracy theorists, out of touch with reality, alot of labels used to discredit folks when they maybe start putting two and two together. The easiest way to "improve" your position is to discredit your opponents first. Trial attorneys use the tactic alot.   

[ironglow]

My take on it is that the majority of the bombings, market place bombings,,,aren't done by who they say....Bin Laden (if existing) and al ciaduh (if it exists) don't hate women and children, or churches, and there is no long term, or even short term percentage in doing such acts when real targets exist for a bonafide resistance force to attack or mess with....it would be a total waste of limited resources, and create disunity of any resistance against the Western neo-crusaders. Creating disunity and chaos benefits us actually  Suicide bombers or attacks that take out our guys are probably from real resistance, but in many cases not....This is the spectre of modern asymetrical warfare...not too honorable anymore in many cases, as GWOT is the practice and fruition of 'false flag' warfare by most measures, short of total anniliation warfare. Look into the origins of this I suggest. First casualty of war is Truth.

Investigation into these alleged attacks are often suspicous or lack a fabric of supporting accuracy, logic, and facts. This kind of info is spun-fed to the Am public who slurp anything up that is anti-muzzie, especially the crazed bomber routine...so why not false flag these attacks, therefore. Number one problem for armies is to teach how to kill (getting quite easy nowadays I'm told),,,thus the propganda. You can take the GWOT seriously when our borders are shut down and attacks on our men and installations and western islamic client states, and israel..pick up. Until that time it is Kibuki and a chess game.


Obviously, the Iracq-Afghani campaigns are to flank the real apple or target...that would be Iran...center of anti-western philosophy-idealism as it were. Our orders are to knock them out next as you see the framework being constructed.....in fact, if you noticed the wikileaks stuff supported just this construct.


Tip of the iceberg:  http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/02/governments-have-admitted-that-they.html

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   Close your eyes Dorothy, click your heels together...and you'll be in  Kansas !

[Pat/Rick]

The old shell game of, the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing. Which boogey man shall we help be our enemy this year?   gov'ts were so busy trying to meddle that the truth has passed by. Their deals have fell through and the schemes of make it better and catch up, has had decades to snowball into global chaos. The public is seeing through the charade, so what's left? have the drummer beat a livlier pace for the oarsmen? A larger spectacle at the coloseum? More loaves? Cheap reasons for more restrictions on Liberty and Freedom of the masses because the "leaders" have screwed up enough to warrant it? Hmm that step is infront of, and passing us by.