I finally got a chance to get out today, the last day of our early shotgun season. The hunt lasted about 10 minutes. Walked down the old woods road behind the house and right were the deer always are they were again. I picked a mature doe and made the shot off-hand at about 80 yards. The old girl ran about 80 yards and called it quits. I didn't get the heart this time. She was a fine mature doe and the skinner were I took her to get butchered said it was one of the bigger he'd seen lately. I was shooting a 20ga USH with a simmons 4X fixed, firing 2 3/4"federal premium with the barnes expander. I took about a 3 hour walk this morning and didn't have a shot that Iwas sure about with the iron sites old my old topper deluxe slug that's why I took the USH20 out this afternoon. I'm having my processor make some salami this time. Can't wait! Good luck to you guys out there.