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Offline teamnelson

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Field test today ...
« on: December 10, 2010, 08:26:16 PM »
This AM at 0530 I went for a stroll with a company of my Marines, so I used it as a chance to test my BOB. A couple lessons learned, or affirmed today that I thought I'd share.
BTW, its was only 5 miles, but it took 5 1/2 hours; this is a company of 20 something, fit specops type Marines. We hiked a ridgeline that spanned several thousand feet in elevation change over the short course. Oh, and it's been raining for two days (getting about 5 gallons per minute off of one rain spout in the backyard). So it was like climbing in a cold shower for 5 1/2 hours. Climbing up a mudslide, then slipping down a mudslide on the other side. Great day for training in other words!

So my BOB itself was soaked through and through, along with me, and everything I was wearing. Boots eventually failed too as far as waterproofing. I had a small dry bag for towel & socks, but I wish I had had a full bag liner. Although that doesn't help all the small stuff in the small pockets, which were mostly impervious to water but got soaked nonetheless. Also, it was a light BOB, but soaked with water it felt twice its weight, and after a couple hours fatigue alone made it feel like I was carrying cinder blocks. A bag waterproof bag cover would've been sweet.

Gortex only keeps you dry from external sources; in these conditions those who chose to wear gortex were just as soaked as those who didn't, from their own sweat. And that's with the slits open, etc.

And we required both hands free for most of the trek just to navigate the trail; so no rifles possible. Although a pistol in a fully enclosed holster would've been no problem. This affirms one of my convictions that a holstered pistol is the first gun to take, followed by whatever else you want, but don't leave home without one. This trail would've been littered with long guns, and all sort of heavy items.

Lest anyone think they'd never face these conditions, these are EXACTLY the type of conditions I'd expect in a major weather catastrophe on an island or coastline, folks trying to reach high ground in terrible rainfall to get out of the path of a tsunami or hurricane. There is no other option but to head up the nearest ridge line as quickly as possible. My house, armory, and food stocks would be washed out with the tide, and the traffic jam from all the people trying to head in and up would just ensure more folks wouldn't make it. You might suggest I move ... folks pay a lot of money to come visit where I live, but I'll gladly move as soon as Uncle Sam says so.
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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 11:11:17 PM »
You might suggest I move ... folks pay a lot of money to come visit where I live, but I'll gladly move as soon as Uncle Sam says so.

 But where might be better as far as 'survival weather' goes?

 You've got rain in December. For me, liquid water trumps frozen if I have to come into contact with it.  :)
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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 07:22:33 AM »
Victor3, I get your point: year round temps between 70 and 80. Lots of water, sunshine & wind. Lots of fish, fruit, etc. Spit a seed on the ground and it grows. But we're also highly susceptible to catastrophic weather if that's the event for us. If a Katrina scale event occurred, we'd not fare as well in recovery due to isolation.
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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 11:44:24 PM »
 I'm sure you've read Guns, Germs and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies

 "Why you white man have so much cargo and we New Guineans have so little?"

 And don't forget what happened in Lord of the Flies  ;)

 Seinfeld had a good point - "Seems we all like to live near water, but not that small, flying water."

 Seriously though, there may be many 'islands' on the mainland where resupply may not happen in some serious disaster scenarios. At least you and I might could go surfing while we starve.

 Getting soaked stinks. One thing about those cheap emergency ponchos is how less than useful they become when it's really windy or you have to hike through dense brush in one.

 
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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 12:24:01 AM »
All anyone needed to escape Katrina was a pair of walking shoes.

In our weather, rain is a non-issue and is usually welcome because it's so hot.
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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 08:13:53 AM »
A BOB should be able to take ANY kind of weather, good test TN. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 08:53:22 AM »


  OK, I apologize.  I'm not a military man.  In my day,  B.O.B stood for a bottle of booze.  So, what the heck are we talking about here?  :-)

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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 10:27:23 AM »
OK, I apologize.  I'm not a military man.  In my day,  B.O.B stood for a bottle of booze.  So, what the heck are we talking about here?  :-)

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Re: Field test today ...
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 10:28:11 AM »
B.O.B. - Bug Out Bag, similar to a GO Bag, War Bag, or Get Out Of Dodge (GOOD) Bag for those who read Patriots.

Its essentially the Bag you have with you, in your car, or in your home that if push came to shove and you had to leave in a hurry, it has all you need to survive for a bit (i.e. food, water, fire, shelter, first aid, weapons). Mine has a lot in common with what I'd take for a 3day wilderness camp, or if downrage, a multi-day patrol without resupply. I've learned its more of an art than a science; its a very personal thing, reflecting the needs and priorities of the individual. Alot of folks only plan theirs to get them from say their office to home in the event of a major climate emergency (hurricane, blizzard, etc.) Some of us look at it as the I'm Never Coming Home (INCH) kit (whether by choice or circumstances like a tsunami washed my house out to sea).
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