Got a friend, that got a laser range finder for Christmas, and while playing with it the Monday after Christmas, spotted a beaver swimming next to the bank at 193 yards. We have been getting rid of them, and I took my daughters 223 out, and told him to watch his head. Sent it, and he remarked about how it came unglued. Next, answered about 20 questions about the rifle, and after he shot it, he has one on the way now. What is so funny about it, earlier in the day, he made the remark about low cost rifles. He was not being arrogant but he does not ask what anything costs, if you know what I mean, and does not have to. I have a feeling he will have several by summer .............. He is hooked bad!