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Offline josebd

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poor accuracy
« on: December 14, 2003, 02:12:34 PM »
i usually shoot out of my pickup,and i can usually group fairly good at around 100 yards,but im still flinching,and having trouble keeping it steady. i tried sand bags,but its not any better.seems like when i pull back on the rifle alot,its not good,but when i hold it loosely it does better. would appreciate any advice. im shooting a remington 700 bdl .223 varmint barrell. i think alot of it is just me.

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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2003, 01:14:45 AM »
Only thing i can say is that you are waiting for the gun to fire. Try softening the trigger a little and make the shot a little bit of a surprise. That may not give you the time to tense up and it will save you pulling the trigger as opposed to putting some pressure on it. Only thing i know to do if you believe its more yourself than the Rifle at fault..
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2003, 01:21:57 AM »
If you are getting started with this project - ask someone at the range to help you out.  One you will get all kinds of assistance and on site experience to help you out - two, you might make a friend.  Two, get the best ear protection you can.  It does make a big difference.

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2003, 04:04:52 AM »
I have a couple of suggestions, things that worked for the most part with my kids.   I suggest a set of front a rear sand bags.  I prefer the 'Owl ear' type in the front and a set of large 'bunny' ear in the rear.  The owl ear bag has a rounded profile notch for the forearm to lie in, while the rabbit ear or bunny ear bag has a 'V' notch stryle of ears which allow you to lay the rifle on the bags.   Making the final adjustments to get the sights on the target by squeezing the ears on the rear bag to raise the rear of the rifle, lowering the sights on the target..  When properly used there is almost no movement of the sights on the target.  The butt must remain in contact with the shoulder and when you wish to fire, instead of trying to pull the trigger, try pinching the stock.  That is pinch the wrist of the stock between the thumb and index finger of the hand on the controls.  The other hand is curled under the rifle and is maintaining the pressure on the rear bag that is holding the rifle on the target.  The front of the rifle is totally supported by the front bad.  Also another trick we used was what I call 'good gun, bad gun'.  Start the day with a rifle with a rather poor trigger.  Something that shoots OK but the trigger pull is rough, heavy, gritty, etc.  I used an SKS(chinese) for my daughter.  She shot the SKS untill she learned to manage the terrible trigger.  The SKS was fairly accurate and at 50 yards she learned to control the trigger quite well.  recoil is pratically nothing and ear/eye protection is ALWAYS worn!!!!  At the end of the day we switched to a Remington(any brand is OK) 700.  This was an old and trusted friend, in 243 Winchester.  I'de used the rifle for years and new what it could do.  The trigger was clean and just a shade under 3 pounds, no over travel and no slack.  After fighting the SKS's trigger all after noon the Remington's was a blessing..  She immediately could shoot amazingly small groups at 100 yards.   After doing this a few times we introduced shooting of an improvised rest.  That is she learned to us a lean up, post tree anything to rest against to help steady her aim.  We used the SKS and it's cheap ammo served us well again.  When she's learned to control that miserable SKS trigger and shoot good 50 groups she swittched to the M700 again and 100 yards and under an inch and a half was not problem.  She's killed close to a dozen deer now with a single shot each..  Some with the 243, the rest with a 280 I built for her.  College limits her hunting time but she knows how to shoot..  Technique is everything.  Practice is only good if you're practicing good habits.  A truck or vehicle is never the best thing to shoot from.  Speak with someone from the local gun club.  I'll bet there is someone there who will help you learn the correct way to shoot...  and Good luck..  As the good colonel said, only accurate guns are truly interesting!
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Re: poor accuracy
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2003, 01:38:48 PM »
Quote from: josebd
i usually shoot out of my pickup,and i can usually group fairly good at around 100 yards,but im still flinching,and having trouble keeping it steady. i tried sand bags,but its not any better.seems like when i pull back on the rifle alot,its not good,but when i hold it loosely it does better. would appreciate any advice. im shooting a remington 700 bdl .223 varmint barrell. i think alot of it is just me.


My suggestions are;
1. Are you using the sling wrapped around your arm to steady the gun??
By using the sling to pull the gun tight your body becomes one with the gun.
2. Your breathing I was taught by an old gunny in the shooting club when i was a kid to take two deep breaths, let the first one out, then let the second one halfway out hold it and shoot.  The gun actually moves when we breathe!!
3. SQUEEZE IT OFF DON"T JERK THE TRIGGER SQUEEZE IT A LITTLE MORE AT A TIME TILL IT GOES OFF!!  SQUEEZE IT LIKE ITS AN EGG
SHELL "SOFTLY" DON"T CRACK IT!!!!
4. Using gun rests pull the gun down into the rests and adjusting  the rear rest till the target is lined up in the sights.  There is no side to side movement this way the gun is more steady.
5. Put a moly based anti-seize or gun grease on the bottom of the bolt and sear in the gun to lesson and smooth the trigger pull that will help too.

I'm sure this will help you out.  Shooting this way was pounded into me in the gun club for shooting in competition when I was a young kid.  I just got thru teaching my son how to shoot and he is one hell of a marksman now of course I started him off with an '06 so everything else is cake well much easier to shoot anyway.
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I have found by doing everything correctly if the gun is still off its the ammo.