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New Hampshire Lawmakers Lift Ban On Guns In Statehouse
« on: January 05, 2011, 06:07:22 AM »
A year ago the Dems who were in charge at the time banned carrying weapons into the statehouse even if you have a CCW permit. They didn't feel us little people were worthy. Luckily the last election booted the Dems out in a big way so the ban was overturned yesterday:

http://www.wmur.com/politics/26369716/detail.html

CONCORD, N.H. -- A Republican-dominated legislative committee voted Tuesday to repeal a year-old ban on guns and dangerous weapons in the New Hampshire Statehouse complex.

Republican members of the Joint Legislative Facilities Committee and ban opponents cited the public's constitutional rights to bear guns and defend themselves as the reasons why the change was warranted.

They left intact a rule giving security guards the right to search people for weapons. Anyone who does not want to be searched has the right to leave the building. Nothing in the rules allows security to confiscate weapons.

Weapons at the Statehouse became a concern when people with guns stood and shouted at lawmakers from the House gallery in March 2009. The disturbance was during debate and votes on a resolution to reaffirm the state's freedom from interference by the federal government. The resolution failed.

Democrats controlled the Legislature then and reinstated a weapons ban that had been in place from 1996 to 2006.

"Gun free zones, if we wake up and smell the coffee, are a killing zone," state Rep. Al Baldasaro, a Londonderry Republican, told the committee in seeking the ban's repeal Tuesday.

Reps. Jennifer Coffey, R-Andover, and Susan DeLemus, R-Rochester, testified that they did not feel safe walking to the legislative garage where their cars are parked.

"I'm feeling very threatened as I walk past people who seem a little shady," said DeLemus.

Ban supporters said the public, particularly schoolchildren, touring the Statehouse shouldn't be put at risk. Police have the training, not the public, to deal with volatile situations, they said. They also said police would have a hard time distinguishing among those with guns who were defending themselves from the aggressors if the ban was lifted.

Former state Rep. Valerie Hardy, a Litchfield Democrat, read a list of incidents around the nation involving gun violence.

"There's too much violence in this world," she said.

House Republican Leader D.J. Bettencourt of Salem challenged her.

"The vast majority of places where those took place were gun free zones, were they not?" he said.

"I can't understand why people feel they have to have a gun everywhere they go," she replied.

Carol Backus of Manchester said gun rights are not absolute and the Statehouse should be a safe haven, particularly for schoolchildren touring with their classes.

"Why should random members of the public be allowed to carry loaded handguns into Representatives Hall or the governor's office?" she said.

Senate Democratic Leader Sylvia Larsen of Concord was the lone Democrat present and voted against the repeal.

"Our most important job this session is to address economic issues," she said. "We're spending our first day addressing an issue I fear will cause problems over time."

She predicted difficult debates would produce "passion, disappointment and defeats."

"Our job is to promote civil discourse and not to allow disruption," she said.

The House also will consider changing its rules Wednesday to allow people to carry weapons in the House chamber, anterooms, cloakrooms or any area of the Statehouse adjacent to those rooms. The rule will prohibit their display, but will allow them to use weapons in self-defense and to defend others.

Currently, only law enforcement officers can carry deadly weapons on the House floor or adjacent areas.

The change would leave it to the House and Senate sergeant-at-arms to keep order in the respective chambers. State police and the Legislature's chief of protective services would keep order in other areas of the complex.

Senate President Peter Bragdon, R-Milford, said he did not know of a similar proposal to the Senate's rules.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

---- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

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Re: New Hampshire Lawmakers Lift Ban On Guns In Statehouse
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 08:02:51 AM »
Thank the LORD that somewhere in New England the word freedom still has meaning.

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Re: New Hampshire Lawmakers Lift Ban On Guns In Statehouse
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 10:46:30 AM »
Thank the LORD that somewhere in New England the word freedom still has meaning.

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I know, New Hampshire is the last bastion of hope in New England. The 3 southern NE states are completely f@cked.
Vermont and Maine are very gun friendly but very highly taxed also. New Hampshire is the only one of the 6 NE states that is gun friendly and low taxed. It's a tough battle because there is a constant influx of @ssholes moving in to NH from the 3 southern New England states and also New York and New Jersey who can't figure that the crappy areas that they left are crappy because of governments that are way too large.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

---- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

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Re: New Hampshire Lawmakers Lift Ban On Guns In Statehouse
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 09:29:27 AM »
People in the Live Free or Die state need to be vigilant and politically active.  Otherwise ideas from other New England states (and from Washington, DC) will permeate into NH.  I often see published information that shows that NH has both the smallest per capita government in NE and also the lowest rates of welfare and public assistance.  I also frequently see published information that NH has about the lowest state payment rate to municipal schools yet always has the highest or about the highest aggregate scores on tests such as the SAT.  So of course bureaucrats in other states and public employee unions are always doing whatever they can to defeat the NH way of life.

Of the original 13 colonies, NH is the sole reminder of what caused the United States to come to be.  I hope NH can continue to hold out against its enemies.