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Offline watkibe

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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2009, 08:29:18 PM »
25-20

250 Savage (I just heard from Wayne York. If I buy a 22 Hornet barrel and send it to him, he will give it back to me in 250 Savage for $325. I am having trouble with the math: $150 for the barrel plus $325 for smithing equals $475 for a barrel to put on a $250 rifle ??? I think his price is fair, and his work gets praised as worth the cost...but maybe I need to settle for a 243 ?)

23-35

327 Federal (would shoot 4 cartridges ! 32 short, 32 long, 32 H&R, 327 Fed) What better company to chamber a firearm for the 32 H&R ? I can't figure out why they haven't capitalized on this bit of their legacy.

357 Maximum

35 Remington

375 Winchester
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2009, 01:04:48 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Ji on September 19, 2006, 11:28:28 PM
I think single shots and rimmed cartridges are made for eachother, and that being said I'd like to see a handi in 405 Winchester, and 9.3 x 74R, and maybe even one in 50-110 in a bull barrel.

 I have often said the same thing conserning rimmed cases/cartridges.  Its not founded in extraction problems with rimmless calibers in ejector handis. There is just something that seems "right" about older, rimmed calibers in single shots. (oops, I said it again. ::) )

its not been mentioned for a page in a half.. A 25/35 would be great. Even better in a long tappered octagon barrel with a good set of buckhorn or ladder open sites!!

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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2009, 03:02:29 AM »
there is no better conversion of a 30-30 barrel (if you want something different than the tried and true 30-30) than to a 30-40 Krag. And it is rimmed to please those that do not like rimless cartridges in a Handi. For me the rimless cartridges all seem to work great, no problems here. However I do agree that for nostalgia, a rimmed cartridge in a Handi does just look right....<><....:)
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2009, 06:05:36 AM »
Never shot one, what's the advantage of 30-40 over 30-30?
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2009, 07:57:07 AM »
Quote from: watkibe on October 17, 2009, 08:29:18 PM
250 Savage (I just heard from Wayne York. If I buy a 22 Hornet barrel and send it to him, he will give it back to me in 250 Savage for $325. I am having trouble with the math: $150 for the barrel plus $325 for smithing equals $475 for a barrel to put on a $250 rifle ??? I think his price is fair, and his work gets praised as worth the cost...but maybe I need to settle for a 243 ?)

Or a 25-06 with youth loads using Hodgdon's 60% rule with H4895.  ;)

Tim

http://hodgdon.com/PDF/Youth%20Loads.pdf
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2009, 09:23:05 AM »
"Or a 25-06 with youth loads using Hodgdon's 60% rule with H4895."

Tim

http://hodgdon.com/PDF/Youth%20Loads.pdf

Thanks again, Tim ! I missed this great tip from Hodgdon somehow. No matter what I think I know,or am into, there is always somebody who knows more, and is way more into it ! Around here, that usually seems to be you.
Great idea about loading down the 25-06. I did the same thing with the 22 Hornet. I want one, but so far, I am satisfied with loading my 223 with Hornet bullets at Hornet velocities, and I sort of have one already.
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2009, 09:32:21 AM »
" I have often said the same thing concerning rimmed cases/cartridges.  Its not founded in extraction problems with rimless calibers in ejector handis."
CW

Hey CW, I have often wondered about this. The conventional wisdom is that break actions of both the single and double barrel persuasions "need" rimmed cartridges for reliable extraction. Yet the Handis (and the Ruger and Remington single shots) seem to have no problem with rimless cartridges, even the extractor models.

So why the idea that single shots cartridges "have" to have a rim ?
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2009, 10:52:13 AM »
.260 Remington, .338 Federal or .338 Marlin, .358 Win, .35 Rem., and I an thinking 8 x 57 has merit (there is an R version, too)

The problem with some of the unusual calibers is there are few guns offered, so ammo sales are low, so few guns are chambered for "unpopular" rounds................on and on
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2011, 03:18:34 AM »
No one wants a 375 H&H? I sort of do.

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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2011, 06:26:45 AM »
Quote from: rsilvers on January 16, 2011, 03:18:34 AM
No one wants a 375 H&H? I sort of do.

I do too, but NOT in a Handi! It has been mentioned many times on GBO, but the SB2 frames will not handle the stresses of the Magnum cartridges.

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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2011, 11:33:11 AM »
If you want to know what one would kick like just shoot a 12ga. Tracker I or II with 3" Mag heavy slugs.
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2011, 12:46:19 PM »
Quote from: rsilvers on January 16, 2011, 03:18:34 AM
No one wants a 375 H&H? I sort of do.



No distributors wanted 7mm Rem Mags, 300 or 338 Win Mags either, at least not enough to place preorders that would warrant the testing cost of a new frame to handle them when H&R announced their availability in the 2008 catalog, the Handi-Mags were canceled before the 2008 SHOT show, only existed on paper.  :'(

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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2011, 09:53:23 AM »
Big Magnums not needed.  Yes, I would buy one in .338 Win Mag, but non of the others.  They currently make a very good selection, that will handle everything in North America.  Let's face it, the bulk of Handi owners aren't the type to be going off to Africa.  The only thing I can think of that might be an area not currently covered would be a .17 Fireball.  .17 Remington would shoot out barrels too fast, but a Fireball can do the same thing and a lot less errosion to the throate.

I keep seeing .375 H&H.  Think about it for a minute, there must be a reason Alaskans have moved away from that old round.  Recoil is tremendous for no more velocity than it puts out (2565fps).  .35 Whelen can come very close to matching it without the tremendous recoil, and a much flatter trajectory.  Trajectory on the .375H&H is like a rainbow, they are no good beyond 300 yards.  Maximum effective range is 245 yards.  The 300gr bullet that leaves the Muzzle at 2565fps bleeds off real fast, (as do the other bullets as well) that same bullet is only going 2000 fps at 245 yards.  Energy has gone from 4382ft lb at muzzle down to 2664ft lb at 245 yards, and it continues to bled off real fast.   
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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #73 on: January 17, 2011, 09:57:11 AM »
Don't make a barrel at all.  300 people want 275 different chamberings.

Make a threaded stub, with extractors available in different sizes.

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Re: results of caliber polls?????
« Reply #74 on: January 17, 2011, 12:49:13 PM »
I'd like to see:

.303 British
.32-20 Winchester
8x57mm Mauser
.357 Maximum

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