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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2011, 03:34:35 AM »
Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 08, 2011, 03:22:10 AM
I shot my XP-100 anywhere from 200 to 500 times a week . I went thru. 3 of them in 7 BR. If I did not clean them I would get a pattern not a group .

I can believe that.
The difference is the average Joe won't shoot that much in several years!




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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2011, 03:41:40 AM »
I know but when someone ask a ? we should tell a complete ansewer . Truth is someone asking about cleaning a gun hasn't shot the gun enough to know if it needs cleaning or only makes noise and not groups. I had the son of a friend ask what could be wrong with his gun he was missing deer . I ask how it shot on paper to which he ansewered well a few years ago..... long story short he cleaned it and it improved then he got some ammo like he sighted in with and it was good as new . Go figure  ::)
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2011, 03:46:44 AM »
Yep, heard that story many times!



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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2011, 05:07:26 AM »
NEF/H&R does blue the inside of the bore.  Sometimes that's what's on the patches.
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2011, 07:43:03 AM »
My partner is a cleaning freak.  He cleans his guns everytime he takes them out shooting.  On a two week float trip he will clean his guns every night before going to bed.  I'm just the opposite, I clean all my guns twice a year.  Does not matter if it's been shot a lot or not at all it gets cleaned in the spring and then again in the fall.  The rest of the year they just get shot. 

My partner is constantly trying to duplicate the shots I make while we are hunting togeather.  I don't think about it much I just find a good rest, control my breathing, time my heart beat, and take the shot.  My barrel is always fouled so I don't have to worry about shooting from a clean barrel and the shot being off.  His first shot is always off by a foot or more.  His second shot will come in closer, then his third shot will be dead on.  He still refuses to believe shooting from a clean barrel is throwing his shots off.  He thinks it's just him, not being able to settle down and make that first shot good.  He has missed, or wounded, several wolves that should have been solid hits between 500 and 700 yards.  I no longer let him make the first shot when we find a pack feeding.   
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2011, 08:08:09 AM »
I have a friend like that.  I've finally convinced him to only clean about every 150 rounds or so.  His accuracy has really improved.
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2011, 08:11:24 AM »
Nice thing about chaps like that is that they make me look like a pretty good shot  ;).
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2011, 04:54:20 AM »
Quote from: Sourdough on February 08, 2011, 07:43:03 AM
My partner is a cleaning freak.  He cleans his guns everytime he takes them out shooting.  On a two week float trip he will clean his guns every night before going to bed.  I'm just the opposite, I clean all my guns twice a year.  Does not matter if it's been shot a lot or not at all it gets cleaned in the spring and then again in the fall.  The rest of the year they just get shot. 

My partner is constantly trying to duplicate the shots I make while we are hunting togeather.  I don't think about it much I just find a good rest, control my breathing, time my heart beat, and take the shot.  My barrel is always fouled so I don't have to worry about shooting from a clean barrel and the shot being off.  His first shot is always off by a foot or more.  His second shot will come in closer, then his third shot will be dead on.  He still refuses to believe shooting from a clean barrel is throwing his shots off.  He thinks it's just him, not being able to settle down and make that first shot good.  He has missed, or wounded, several wolves that should have been solid hits between 500 and 700 yards.  I no longer let him make the first shot when we find a pack feeding.
Do you ever oil your bore between cleanings, or does alot of shooing keep in from developing rust?
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2011, 05:12:22 AM »
I dont even want to take the risk of a bore developing rust! Yes I oil my bores with 'Ed's Red' (two patches pushed through) and wipe it dry (two or three patches) before shooting and run three to five foulers and they usually settle right down to POA. I need the practice anyway.
At deer camp no, its fouled and ready and stays just that way until done, and the gun does not go inside, but stays cold, so it doesnt 'sweat'.
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2011, 05:16:12 AM »
Yep it only takes $8.00-$10.00 dollars worth of ammo and a $10.00 range trip to get them to shoot right again.

Modern ammo doesn't rust bores.

I almost never oil a bore.  WD-40 is ok for that because it evaporates quickly.
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2011, 06:31:16 AM »
No, it 'costs' me a buck or two in my reloads...........and like I said, I need the practice anyway.
I bought 'em to shoot.
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2011, 09:28:41 AM »
Inaccurate practice.....I'm sure that helps.
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2011, 10:32:55 AM »
oil in the bore can migrate to the action or wood. If it gets around the fireing pin and you keep cold so it won't sweat you could have a hard time getting the gun to fire in cold weather. Just saying ...
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Re: Gun Cleaning?
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2011, 11:04:05 AM »
Now I did not say I clean after every session. But I have seen bores with rust that have not been oiled and put into 'storage'. Yeah, you thought you would shoot it again next week and 6 mo. later...........especially in humid environments. My guns have cost too much to leave it to chance; do what you want with yours. Oh, and I see a bunch of those kind on gun show tables for sale.
And I did say at deer camp it is fouled (or conditioned, if you prefer); that bore has been dried out and a few shots fired as I described, before season, -0- has been verified, etc. and I know where the 1st shot out of that cold, 'conditioned' bore is going to print.
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