h&r handi rifle accuracy

[josebd]

cant shoot a good group,maybe its the trigger, anybody had any trouble like this?

[Daveinthebush]

Hey there cheap and some times aren't accurate but what do you want for under $200.

1.  Some chambers are long throated.

2.  Some chambers are rough and need lapping.

3.  Try hr1871.com the NEF forum.

4.  A thin rubber washer between the forearm and the barrel.

5.  All of mine need to have the brass fully resized.

6.  H&R will do a trigger job for you bringing it to 3 - 3 1/2 pounds for free.

What is the caliber?

Hope this helps, I have four of them

[josebd]

.223

[josebd]

what is some chambers are long throated?

[Daveinthebush]

The distance the chamber is cut at the end of the case to the end of the rifleing.  Or at least that is what I have always called it.  :?: (Someone correct me if I am wrong, please!)So the bullet has to jump to get to the rifling.  If you reload for the H&R you can easily determine this and load the loads longer than the normal specifications.

[josebd]

how would you determine that, the poor boy way

[Daveinthebush]

1.  Size a case ready to reload.
2.  Without a primer in the case and no powder, seat bullet slightly into the case backwards.
3.  See if the round will chamber and the action will shut.  You want the to be able to just close the action with a little snap.  
4.  If the round won't close, seat the bullet about one turn of the die deeper and try again.  
5.  Repeat until you have the bullet seated and action will close.

The length of the shell from the base of the brass to the bullets end should be the length to the rifleing.


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1.  Size a case ready to reload.
2.  Without a primer in the case and no powder, seat bullet slightly into the case correctly.
3.  See if the round will chamber and the action will shut.  You want  to be able to just close the action with a little snap.  
4.  If the round won't close, seat the bullet about one turn of the die deeper and try again.  
5.  Repeat until you have the bullet seated and action will close.
     The bullet should now be right up against the rifling.
6.  Seat the bullet 1/32" deeper.

This will put the bullet just back of the lands of the rifling.

[josebd]

ok,thank you for the help.

[josebd]

well i believe i found the problem,i was full length resizing my brass. i loaded up some with only resizing the neck,first 3 set of rounds(3 shots) within inch and a half. next 2 sets not that good but the weather is foggy and real light drizzle, and i probably need to clean the barrel. thanks to everybody for your opinions,this is a great message board.

[Winter Hawk]

Another forum with lots of good info: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nef-singleshot/  There are several accurizing write ups in the files section.

-WH-

[spitpatch]

I own the NEF .223 and mine shoots sub 1" groups at 100. VERY pleased with it. I FL size and have had no problems. Everyone I know who owns one says theirs shoot just as good. Neck sizing only will no doubt tighten your groups, but if your not getting groups sub 1" @ 100 yds. I'd say you got a problem with your rifle. I would expect NEF will help you out.

[josebd]

ok,well i loaded up some different loads with different bullets,and at 50 yards the 55 v-max 2 shots in same hole,50 speer sp 4 different loads,2 shots each all within 3/4 or better,then loaded 2 up to nearly max,within 1/4. i know its only 50 yards but thats all i could shoot that day. im still neck sizing and switched to bl-c2,from varget. i also tried the remington 55 grain sp they grouped within 1 - 1 1/2.

[spitpatch]

I shoot 60 gr. V-Max...H335....22.0 gr......Excellent groups. I Also shoot 55 gr Sierra HPBT...IMR 4895...25.1 gr. Have very good results with this load too. I hardly ever shoot SP bullets because they are inheriently not as accurate as HP's or V-Max. To get an accurate reading of your rifle, I would suggest 5 Rd. groups of whatever your loading. Daveinthebush has a good point about throating also, should be checked if you can't keep good groups. And lastly...the shooter. Make sure your resting on bags and/or your rifle is vised and has no movement (front or rear) while your printing groups....This I'm sure your doing. Good luck and I'm going to try your loads and see what I can get from them in my handi. Keep playing with your loads