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Offline coyotejoe

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my homemade "Bisley"
« on: March 15, 2011, 12:28:08 PM »
About a year ago I acquired a Ruger 50th Anniversary flat top .44 mag. It has proved to be accurate but not at all pleasant to shoot. If I try to squeeze my pinkie finger onto the grip it wedges my second knuckle against the triggerguard and even upper level .44 special loads rap my knuckle quite painfully. If instead I curl the pinkie under the grip, which many people claim as the proper single action grip, then it pivots upward on recoil and raises a blood blister in the web between thumb and forefinger. And I've never even fired any full bore magnum loads from it, just warm .44 specials, like a 240 grain at about 1000-1200 fps.
 Remembering the Bisley Vaquero .44 mag I once had I decided that grip is what I needed. But to buy a grip frame is about 130 dollars + the grips and that is in the white, needing to be fitted to the frame and finished. I looked long and hard at the grip frame and decided I could modify it to be close enough to the Bisley style. It was with some trepidation that I made that first hacksaw cut but once committed it went pretty quickly and well.
  This photo shows the wedge cut out of the grip frame. I had also cut off the forward sweep of the grip frame but forgot to photograph that bit.
I then closed the gap by squeezing the grip frame in my vise and secured it with silver solder as in the second photo.
 I got some walnut knife handle blanks from Dixie Gun Works and made the grips about 1/4" longer than the frame, finished with Watco Danish Oil. I filed, and polished the cut areas and blued with "Blue Wonder", which I have found to be by far the best cold blue available, provide one follows the directions "exactly".
  I have never understood why so may handgun grips flair out much larger at the bottom when no human hand is shaped like that and when it is the top of the grip which drives into the hand under recoil.
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 03:53:50 PM »
Looks like a great job to me! Doubt that I could work up the courage to take a hack saw to mine.. Have you shot it yet? It would be interesting to see if it recoils like a Bisley.
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 05:01:22 PM »
Great job!  I like it.
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 04:50:46 AM »
I still haven't fired any full bore magnums and may never do so but the 240 swc's at 1100 fps feel like .38 specials. Being able to get the pinkie on the grip really helps reduce muzzle flip and the broad surface at the top spreads the recoil over a larger area and saves the web of the hand. I'm very pleased with how it worked out. Of course the original grips are so poor that about anything would be an improvement.
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 06:34:23 AM »
Nice job!  I went with the "in the white grip conversion" and the cost is $190 from Brownell's.  I also sent it to Mike LaRocca of Larocca Gunworks in Worcester MA because I get wayyy too excited and down right dangerous with things that cut or grind metal!!!
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 10:25:08 AM »
Oh man, I would expect the final figure with gunsmithing and grips must be pretty close to the price of a brand new Bisley, that's why I went the DIY route. ;D
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 04:34:42 PM »
I think you are probably correct....my BH is in 41mag and I found a Bisley in 41 mag on Gunbroker, but it was in NY and that particular model, a bisley, is NOT allowed by our state....the standard one is...go figure.
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 04:45:08 AM »
I think you are probably correct....my BH is in 41mag and I found a Bisley in 41 mag on Gunbroker, but it was in NY and that particular model, a bisley, is NOT allowed by our state....the standard one is...go figure.

That is a strange bit of law but  there is no "figuring" where politicians are concerned, only scheming.
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 09:45:44 AM »
If i build another custom, it'll be a single action from an existing bisley(hopefully stainless)...the 45LC Rugers are allowed and I'll probably have it converted to a 5-shot 480Ruger
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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 12:57:00 PM »
very nice build!!!

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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 03:06:47 AM »
i have done a couple BH to Bisley conversions. The cheapest way is to buy a Bisley Vaquero, switch the hammer , trigger, and grip frame with the Blackhawk and you'll have your adjustable sighted Bisley and a "Vaquero" left over to sell. FWIW

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Re: my homemade "Bisley"
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2011, 05:37:52 AM »
These days Ruger has so many different frame sizes with old Blackhawk, new Blackhawk,  flat top .357, flat top .44, old Vaquero, New Vaquero, I wouldn't know what interchanges. Also it's my understanding that none "really" interchange because the frame and grip frame are assembled and finished together.
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