.223 ultra not shooting good.

[trapperman83]

Hello, im pret.ty new to the forum, recently purchased the 223 ultra.  I had to do a trigger job on it immediatly, but now that is ok it still wont do better than a 2 inch group at a hundred yards with 55gr NBT or factory ammo, its all the same.  I dont know if it is just my luck or what but now it is missfiring every so often.  I am not sure what to do it is a brand new gun.  I have tryed two different scopes checked my base and ring screw over and over I am pretty stumped on this one.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[quickdtoo]

Welcome! Read the Handi Basic 101 sticky and the accurizing section of the FAQs, there are some things you need to know about H&Rs that will help you get the best out of it. If it wasn't misfiring before the trigger job, they may be caused by too light trigger which may not work well with the transfer bar, it's fairly common, but trigger pull is covered in the basics sticky. But a simple thing like oil on the latch or shelf will throw accuracy out the window.  If the info you read doesn't help, contact the factory and make arrangements to send it in for repair. 

Tim

[trapperman83]

I am doing that as we speak, I also forgot to mention that I had to replace the hammer cuz I filed the first one a little to far, the trigger pull is setting about 3.5lbs.  I wander if the new Hammer has anything to do with it, like where it rests on the main body.

[quickdtoo]

That's a fine pull weight, shouldn't be a problem, but it could be other issues too, but not pulling the trigger all the way to the rear after it breaks can cause FTFs, but so can a bad transfer bar or the trigger extension may be too short to keep the transfer bar up long enough.

Tim

[XD40SC]

Mine shoots better with lighter bullets. How long are you waiting between shots? You'll get the best accuracy out of a cool barrel.

[cwlongshot]

Welcome!!

 My very first reaction was 2" is simply a load the barrel doesn't like as its not atrocious and you haven't mentioned fliers or stringing which both tell of other problems. But just a 2" group tells me you need more trigger time with some different loadings.

CW

[trapperman83]

Like I said earlier it doesnt matter what gets shot through it, I am going to try some 69gr bthp, whats really odd is the first two shot will just about touch, and shot 3 and 4 will look the same only about 2 inches higher its kinda strange.

[mechanic]

The barrel is warming up, and most likely the fore end is putting pressure on the barrel.  Remove the fore stock, and rest on the receiver and try again, pulling the trigger cleanly all the way to the rear.  I bet your groups will shrink.

Ben

[Sourdough]

My Openion:  These are hunting rifles, designed to give the maximum accuracy on the first and second shot.  After that they need to rest to cool down.  I shoot the same bullet out of my Ultra, with good results.  The only thing I did was place an O-ring under the forearm, then lots of shooting, two shots at a time.

[PHATINJUN]

Also make sure it's a 9" twist a 12" may be the differance that you have .Although 55gr should work in the 12" some times it don't. You do say a new gun but that may also mean a new old stock . There have been many bought new that were manufactured yrs ago or even old bbls found at factory. I doubt this is your problem but don't discount it til you know for sure. Kurt

[trapperman83]

Thank you guys for all the help, I think the hunting rifle theory is about the best I have heard so far, I didnt think these guns were that sensitive to heat.  I have been shooting it lately here in M.T its only in the 40-50 degree range, I am going out to shoot it right now I will report back. Thanks.

[trapperman83]

Just got back from shootiing the 223 and was able to tighten up my groups by a full inch, it really seemed to like the 69 grain bthp sierra, which sucks because they are a little pricey.  Anyways it shoots better, I have my spendy varmint rifles for tack driving, this will be a good keep in the truck gun.  Thanks for all the help.

[Sourdough]

Put it in the truck, that's what they are for.  Virtually indestructiable.  I have carried mine on the handlebars of a motorcycle, and 4-wheeler.  Everything was cool till I dumped the bike.  Gun got scratched up, but still sohhot great.

[oldsoldja]

thats nice shooting according to me.

[sitdwnandhngon]

Hey trapperman, I did the same exact thing as you last week and had to get a new hammer.

I won't go any lower than 4 lbs now after that experience, my transfer bar was barely engaging.

[tykempster]

2" isn't awful for a Handi.  I would try some different loads and see if you can improve it somewhat.

[dave29]

2" isn't awful for a Handi.  I would try some different loads and see if you can improve it somewhat.

He did try different loads, and shrunk the groups down an inch. Didn't you read the whole thread?