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Offline Terbltim

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Again with Tumble Lube?
« on: April 19, 2011, 12:57:36 PM »
Hey Veral,
I know this topic has been on here a few times but I can’t figure out how to do a search for it so the fastest way is to just ask.
A friend of mine has and uses the “Tumble Lube” style of bullets.
He also likes the liquid alox with the tumble-lube system.
Even so, my constant barrage of the merits of LBT Blue soft has got him interested in giving it a try.

The question is…
What method or technique would you recommend for him to use to get those bullets a coat of LBT Blue?...(some adaptation of the tumble lube system is preferred.)

It occurs to me that he (we) may want to try that with the normal cast bullets too. Same technique?

His cast bullet shooting is limited to handguns and he doesn’t shoot anything over 1100 fps, (usually under 1000 fps.)
His primary interest is with the 45 caliber bullets.
He sees the Lyman 450 (and similar) system as being a lot more bother and equipment than he is willing to get into. I can’t fault his reasoning on that but I think he’d come into the fold if he had a convenient way to use LBT Blue in the tumble-lube manner.
What should I show & tell him?
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Re: Again with Tumble Lube?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2011, 09:30:31 AM »
 1. how does he size his present T/L bullets ?? Lee push through, or shoot them as cast & T/led ??
2. Is he useing a TL lube designed mold ?? or a conventional design ??

 Either way on either question, I'ld suggest "pan" lubing the bullets with your LBT and going from there

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Re: Again with Tumble Lube?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 01:54:14 AM »
My Buddy uses both the Tumble-Lube design bullets and the normal types.
I think he uses the TL design un-sized (as recomended by Lee) and I know he uses the Lee push-through sizers for whatever sizing he ever does.

Pan lubing; is that where a pan becomes dedicated to being a lube-pan? and some amount of LBT Blue is warmed (until it runs) and the bullets rolled around in it?

I've never attempted to warm LBT Blue (other than in a heated Lyman-450.)
My impression is that it doesn't readily go to liquid, (one of its very desireable attributes.)
How hot should we expect to make the stuff? (Seems like some preparations might be in order.)
This might be a question best answered by Veral.
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Re: Again with Tumble Lube?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 09:18:33 PM »
  Pan lubing is a sloppy mess and entirely out of the field of tumble lube, which needs to be a fast high production thing.

  I don't recommed blue soft for tumble lubing because it is quite tacky and as you stated, doesn't turn liquid as easy, though it does at about 212 deg F or so.  Use it if you have some.  If you have to order lube, get commercial as it's the least tacky and performs just as well.  One solid stick can lube up to 10,000 38 caliber revolver bulelts, so it is the epitome of cheap!

  Put your bullets in an aluminum cake pan with only one layer and that quite loose.  Heat in a kitchen oven to about 220 deg F.  Remove the pan and touch a stick of lube in the bottom till a little melts off.  Roll the bullets around gently till the bearing surfaces are completely wetted.  Don't use more lube than just enough to wet the surfaces.  Reheat if and add more lube as  needed then let them cool.  They are ready to load and shoot.

  If using most LBT designs the forward drive band outside the case will probably hit in the cylinder throats.  Either size so loaded rounds chamber easy (revolver) or shoot unsized and seat deeper in the case so a light crimp can be run over the ogive.  This is not a method for heavy loads or gas checked bullets.  You can expect superb accuracy if you keep velocity levels inside the limits of tumble lubed bullets, which will be about 1200 fps max in hot weather and up to 1400 fps in cool weather.  This from a gun with smooth bore.  It works great for auto loaders, without sizing, and for plinking loads in fixed barrel guns such as rifles and single shot handguns.
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Re: Again with Tumble Lube?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 04:20:03 PM »
Thanks Veral,
That was exactly what I needed to know.
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