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Ruger 10/22 must haves
« on: March 26, 2011, 05:18:24 PM »
I picked up a K10/22T. It is used but shoots good. (at least in the garage) I'm not sure about the factory stock so that might be the first thing I change, but what other suggestions do you have that I might need to do? Hopefully I will take it out in the morning to the range to put it to the test.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 05:34:52 PM »
The biggest issue with 10/22s for me is the trigger group. I have to address the funky trigger and make it better to make me happy. There are hammer and sear kits out there as well as complete trigger group with guard and housing. I really like a trigger stop to eliminate over travel. Depends on how much money you want to pay. As far as stocks and other stuff, I'm good with what came from the factory on mine. Walmart 10/22 22".
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 08:58:17 PM »
Go to http://www.rimfirecentral.com They have more information on the Ruger 10/22 than you will ever want to know...

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2011, 01:17:39 PM »
Yep trigger would be first in my opinion. I have done my own trigger jobs in the past with the tutorials at RFC, and have put in a Volquartsen Target Hammer on one.

If you want a really good trigger for about the price of some of the drop in kits google TT Shooter. I have had TT Shooter do a couple for me that I wanted better than I thought I could get them myself and his work is first rate. He offers a Standard Trigger Job and a Precision Trigger Job. I have only used the Precision Trigger Job (along with the Extended Mag Release and AutoBolt Modification).

In the end it all depends on what you want and expect out of your 10/22T.

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2011, 03:33:07 PM »
Check this site out as well....outstanding work.....I've had 2 guns done:

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 01:44:49 PM »
Butts, I got just what you need.  Trigger job 1.2lbs and less than .032" travel(smack the stock and it fires), bents chamber, 24" choked, fluted and threaded for a break bull barrel, bedded, floated, polished bolt and firing pin all sitting on a M40 clone stock weighing in at 9.5lbs without the bypod. Not much fun to hunt with or shoot offhand with. Shoots sub moa at 50 yards using match grade ammo, pop can at 200 yards, pie plate at 300 yards and with a little kuntucky windage ( no more milldots ) beachball at 400 yards.   Not bad for a 10/22 that started its life in Walmart. All that crap will take a $200 gun and make it a $900 plus gun real fast (not the smartest thing I ever did with my money) . All in all its pretty useless, but cool to play with. My advice to you would be polish the sear and hammer ( dont file ) with a cotton wheel and buffing compound till they look like a mirror at contact points (polish in the direction they travel) . You should be able to get the factory trigger down to 3.5lbs just by polishing. Spray the trigger mechanism and action with teflon dry lube not rem oil or the like as it is the bane of semi auto .22lr's. The factory barrel will blow your mind using wolf extra match ammo and no barrel band. Dont bother with the after market charging handels as they gain you nothing in the realm of accuracy, they just look cool.
By the way, keep the two barrel screws tight by using blue locktite (not red), not all stock 10/22 recievers are created equal and will differ some in tolerance. The slightest movement of the barrel to the reciever will throw your point of impact off. I see alot of folks pick there 10/22's up by the barrel (dont do it if you want to keep zero), the barrel to reciever fit on a 10/22 is the Achilles heel of the design if one desires accuracy. Just my two cents for what it is worth.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 03:04:16 PM »
Walmart Special 10/22 22''. Trigger job, fire lapped, 60.00 CenterPoint 3x9 illuminated mil-dot reticle. Federal 550 brick, 36gr hollowpoints. Sub moa, head shot on cottontail at 180yds, body hit at 200yds on a windless day. About 350.00 including the sling.

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 07:27:23 PM »
Saddlebum, nice shooting my friend. I like the stainless and walnut stock. Sub moa with bulk ammo, keep that gun seing how it likes the cheap stuff.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 09:12:38 PM »
Saddlebum, nice shooting my friend. I like the stainless and walnut stock. Sub moa with bulk ammo, keep that gun seing how it likes the cheap stuff.


Those distances were calculated later using the calculator on CenterPoint's website using the mil-dots and size of target. I believe they are real close. Of coarse this shooter can't do that every time and only then if the wind isn't blowing. I haven't tried anything past 200yds. I'm lucky to get any shot off without the wind blowing at least a little. The two shots I mentioned were my best two, from a steady rest. There is no doubt some luck involved.
The ammo IS good in this gun but there is a flyer every so often. I haven't found any .22lr that doesn't. I'm not any kind of a hotshot shooter, but I can call my shots most of the time.

This is my first 10/22. I have never cared for the carbine much and didn't want to spend the money on custom work or hunt with a bull barrel. When I saw this one and the price, I bought it on the spot. Do wish it had a walnut stock though. It's hardwood.  :-[
I was thinking about bedding the action, but it shoots so good I decided to wait. That and the job is pretty weird compared to other bedding jobs I've done. Procrastination!

That is a really sharp sniper rifle you have there! Really nice barrel and camo!!
 I shot a custom job at a ESPN Outdoors fandango at Reno once. But nothing like yours. It was the bull barrel silhouette competition type. BTW, thanks for the good tips in your post. Some things I didn't know before.
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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 12:15:34 PM »
Saddlebum,  your stock has a walnut look to it. I have about all of the centerpoint scopes that Crossman makes as I have lots of buds that work there just 30 miles down the road in Bloomfield NY. Your scope looks like my 2x7 that I put on a crossbow. All of the adventure class scopes have the same mill-dot spacing. Were people confuse the use of mill-dots is that they very the power of the scope when shooting at farther distances. The mill-dot spacing will always remain the same regardless of power setting, what changes is the size of image being viewed. Try setting your scope on 6 power and zero at 100 yards. This will put 200 yards on the 3rd mill-dot down from the crosshairs. If still on 6 power you will be on the bold post below the 6th mill-dot at 300 yards. Once you get a good 100 yard zero dont adjust the turrets adjust the power of the scope to fine tune past 200 for vertical. The higher the power the lower the inpact the lower the power the higher the impact (mill-dots not crosshairs). The 100 yard zero will remain constant regardless of power setting. All I shoot is 40 grain round nose as I find it retains velocity a tad bit better at anything past 200 yards. What I have stated is for high velocity 40 grain ammo. When I shoot match grade I get similiar results but at 2 power as the initial velocity is much slower concidering we are talking about .22lr (200fps is alot). Give it a try it may work for you, well I know it will. Here is a pic of a 300 yard target on a 5 mph crosswind day. If you want to see something real neat shoot at allmost sundown with the sun to your back. You can pick the bullet up in flight at around 175 yards in the scope and follow it rite to the target. You will see the bullet vear to the right at around 250 yards. Its the funniest thing to watch. You will see the bullet or vapor trail with no problem at all. Try it out just for poops and grins.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 12:20:24 PM »
300 yards.

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 01:39:47 PM »
Go to http://www.rimfirecentral.com They have more information on the Ruger 10/22 than you will ever want to know...

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2011, 01:56:45 PM »
Go to http://www.rimfirecentral.com They have more information on the Ruger 10/22 than you will ever want to know...

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2011, 02:18:16 PM »
I have a freind that started out with a Ruger 10/22 and replaced all the parts including the reciever.
He rebuilt the first 10/22 and was about to start over again when he just bought a 3rd reciever and started from there.
My 10/22T is stock.
I lucked out and got a really good trigger.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 02:23:44 PM »
Saddlebum,  your stock has a walnut look to it. I have about all of the centerpoint scopes that Crossman makes as I have lots of buds that work there just 30 miles down the road in Bloomfield NY. Your scope looks like my 2x7 that I put on a crossbow. All of the adventure class scopes have the same mill-dot spacing. Were people confuse the use of mill-dots is that they very the power of the scope when shooting at farther distances. The mill-dot spacing will always remain the same regardless of power setting, what changes is the size of image being viewed. Try setting your scope on 6 power and zero at 100 yards. This will put 200 yards on the 3rd mill-dot down from the crosshairs. If still on 6 power you will be on the bold post below the 6th mill-dot at 300 yards. Once you get a good 100 yard zero dont adjust the turrets adjust the power of the scope to fine tune past 200 for vertical. The higher the power the lower the inpact the lower the power the higher the impact (mill-dots not crosshairs). The 100 yard zero will remain constant regardless of power setting. All I shoot is 40 grain round nose as I find it retains velocity a tad bit better at anything past 200 yards. What I have stated is for high velocity 40 grain ammo. When I shoot match grade I get similiar results but at 2 power as the initial velocity is much slower concidering we are talking about .22lr (200fps is alot). Give it a try it may work for you, well I know it will. Here is a pic of a 300 yard target on a 5 mph crosswind day. If you want to see something real neat shoot at allmost sundown with the sun to your back. You can pick the bullet up in flight at around 175 yards in the scope and follow it rite to the target. You will see the bullet vear to the right at around 250 yards. Its the funniest thing to watch. You will see the bullet or vapor trail with no problem at all. Try it out just for poops and grins.


I have some experimenting to do!
That sounds like good advice! What I have tried to do so far for hunting is to come up with a zero that would 'calibrate' with the dots at longer known distances. Since rabbit hunting can happen at anywhere from right under my feet out to as far as I can shoot. I have done some experimenting with a 50yd zero. Using that zero I can aim pretty close to dead on out to 50. At 75 the hold is setting the crosshair just on top of the target, (rabbit's head). 100yds is dead on the 1st dot. And so on. If I remember right, at 200 is the 5th dot. Some 25yd incremental distances the dot is on target and some not. Obviously not very scientific or precise. I think though, using the method you mention of using the power settings I may be able to come up with a formula that would place the dots on target at all 25yd increments to 200. Finding a zero that works for all distances out to 200yds in calibration with the mil-dots has been elusive. But it's just a game anyway. I didn't know about manipulating the power settings...........Thanks!
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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2011, 04:46:36 PM »
I was just doing some surfing and came across this and thought I'd pass it along.
Since Walmart stopped selling the 10/22 22" alot of people have been searching for them and lamenting that they are not available anymore.
Just in case anyone is interested, Lipsey's is selling this model. This was posted elsewhere on 2/05/11 and it is still coming up on Lipsey's website. From the picture it looks like it doesn't have the extended mag release that mine came with and has the silver/gray trigger guard instead of black, like mine. Mine also came with a Weaver style scope base.
 Personally, I'm thinking of coating my reciever black and leaving the barrel clear.

http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RUK1022-22&mfg=Ruger&family=10%2f22+Series&model=10%2f22+Stainless

Afterthought:
Here is a better pic of another version with Ruger's factory grey coating and ext. mag release.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2011, 05:43:41 PM »
Saddlebum, paint that reciever black and I will poke you in the eye for acting stupid.  ;D

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2011, 06:10:48 PM »
Saddlebum, paint that reciever black and I will poke you in the eye for acting stupid.  ;D

I don't know! If you could see the silver factory paint in person you might change your mind. And besides, it would match the black trigger guard and scope. When I was doing the trigger I thought about getting a silver guard from Midway while I was at it. But then I got the idea of coating the reciever with something that looks better than the factory paint...............more indecision.   :-\

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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2011, 01:16:20 PM »
Mine shoots 1/2 - 3/4 inch 10 shot groups at 50 yards and the only mods are the removal of the barrel band a light clean up to the trigger components and a over travel screw in the trigger guard. Even though the trigger pull is still heavy it is smooth and  let off is very predictable and accuracy is very respectable.
All these mods were done by me I started to do the barrel swap full blown trigger thing ,but a buddy of mine has a small fortune in his and my Marlin 25n will out shoot it by an embarrassing margin any day.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2011, 01:48:02 PM »
@ Hooker

That is a good cheap modification, installing a trigger stop in the trigger guard. I simply drilled and tapped it and put an all thread set screw I had in my gun box in it. Makes a world of difference. To me anyway!
I am also a firm believer in fire lapping the barrel with LBT lapping compound.
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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2011, 02:22:25 PM »
Yes sir, a heavy trigger pull and excessive over travel make it very hard to get good accuracy.
Sounds like you did your trigger stop the same way I did mine.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2011, 01:28:20 PM »
I just got an email from Brownell's today and it had some 'do it yourself' videos to promote their DIY kits.
Here's one for Power Custom's adjustable hammer and sear kit. I noticed he left the adjustment so it has more creep in the trigger than it does when stock. But I assume it can be adjusted better since he said the sear can be adjusted to get rid of the creep.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=13628/GunTechdetail/Brownells_DIY_Power_Custom_10_22_Trigger_Upgrade_Kit_Installation?mc_id=5511

Hammer and sear kits available without tools for less;

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=23072/Product/RUGER_reg__10_22_reg__PRE_TRAVEL_ADJUSTABLE_HAMMER___SEAR_KIT

http://ruger22.com/newpages/improve.htm
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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2011, 12:42:48 PM »
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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2011, 09:15:18 AM »
And the speed loader holders for a 44 mag will hold the rotary mags for a 77/22 Hornet.

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2011, 01:25:37 PM »
And the speed loader holders for a 44 mag will hold the rotary mags for a 77/22 Hornet.

I just got this one in the mail today for my .41mag. Nicest one I've seen. Especially for 27.10, in my hand, three days after winning the auction on ebay.....Just in case someone is interested............

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Re: Ruger 10/22 must haves
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2011, 03:21:49 PM »
Well I went through all the trouble and money to put a cheap scope on it, sight it in and can now hit about anything within .22 lr distances.  But thats me, I am kinda simple.  Pretty sure I havent cleaned it yet either and its going on 5 years now.