keltec sub 2000

[willis5]

What do you guys have on the Kel tec sub 2000?

Reliable? Hinges stay tight?
Thanks guys!

Cheers,
willis5

[boneguru]

but it is quite accurate, for a pistol round, haven't tested it much beyond 75yds. also have not measured groups, but that was not why I purchased it. it functions quite well for what I feel it was developed in use. wil hit a milkjug at 75 yds with no problem. the one feature I don't like, I can feel a definate snap in the cheek when I use the sights. I am looking into some sort of cheek piece. for now ot works great from the hip with a streamlight M6. bad news is the rifle was about the same price as the laser/ light option. Raymond

[Savage]

I too would be interested in feedback on the Sub 2000. I am thinking about getting one for the front seat of my patrol unit. It should be quite handy with the 30rd Glock mag!
Stay Safe,
Savage

[Savage]

Well Ok,
Guess I'll just have to take the plunge and buy one. I've heard good things about the (shudder) HiPoint carbine as well.
Stay Safe,
Savage

[Savage]

Cknight,
I've got a gun show the 16/17th of this month. I just might find the money to capture one of these little uglys. I'll get the Glock version of course. I have a few Glock mags around somewhere that will work in it. They are the 15rd versions for the model 19, but the LE mags for the mdl 17 are cheap. You could put a +2 on it and have a 19rd capacity. Of course the 30rd mags are available for around $50-------Might be fun!
I'll let you know-
Stay Safe,
Savage

[Savage]

Chris,
I saw 3 of the 2000s at the gun show. Two of them were 9mm and were priced at around $350. The other one was a .40 for $295. The 9s were overpriced and I am avoiding the .40, so I'm still looking. I think what I'd really like is a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45! Oh well, guess I'll keep on looking.
Stay Safe,
Savage

[VanL6]

I have been thinking about getting one of these rifles also:

The one in the pic here, I borrowed from a friend to try out. This one is a .40. I want to buy a 9mm version so I can use my Glock clips. Any of you guys have any more feedback on using one of these?

[Savage]

Kinda got talked out of buying one myself. Reallity sort of kicked in when a friend pointed out to me that I already had and AR and a 30 cal carbine with a collapsable stock-------not to mention the com block stuff------Guess I really don't need a pistol cal carbine-------but---------
Stay Safe,
Savage

[boneguru]

I thought it would make the perfect home defence, behind the seat of the jeep carbine. I can tell you it has taken at least six rattlers this season (dove) that all tasted especially good in the chili pot. R

p.s. I fixed the bolt slap in the cheek by trimming down one of the adhesive backed comb risers and stuck it around the tube leaving enough room for the bolt to cycle without hitting.

[VanL6]

Ok, I returned the Keltec to my buddy. I enjoyed shooting it. It was definately different. I believe it will make a good short distance rifle for me to use my Glock clips in. His was .40 cal.;So, I did not get to try my higher capacity 9mm clips in it. I let my father shoot a few rounds through it and he thought it was a "cheap piece of crap". I started to debate it with him and he told me "He did not care about it since he was not the one buying or shooting it". Last night I went into the local gun shop, and they finally had a new 9mm model in stock. I asked the guy behind the counter to let me see it and tell me eveything he knows about it. Well, he did not tell me anything that I did not already know about it except for the fact that he said "We are selling about 2 a month, and we have not seen or heard of any problems". Last month when I was there they had 2 .40 cal. in stock, and yesterday they only had the 9mm in stock. I asked him why they only had the one 9mm in stock now and he said "We just got 2- 9mm in stock on Monday and we sold one of them on Tuesday. More people are looking for the 9mm model". I am really leaning towards going back next week and buying it.

[Savage]

VanL6,
Looks to me like these little carbines would be a lot of fun to play with. It would make a good camp gun for anything you might need something slightly heavier than a rimfire. Anything the pistol would do, the carbine in the same caliber should do better. I came real close to buying one in 9mm that would use my Glock Hicaps.
Stay Safe,
Savage

[Savage]

Chris,
I might know where there is a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45ACP at a reasonable price. PM me if you are interested. Back to the thread. We had another gun show the 1st&2nd of this month. There were a few of the Sub 2000s there in both 9 and 40, they were going for a low of $285 to a high
of $360. Who knows, at some weak moment I may break down and buy one.----------Well off to work---------!
Stay Safe,
Savage

[VanL6]

The Sub 2000 that I found, Which takes my 9mm Glock clips, is new for $340.00. I am definately thinking of getting it in the next few days.

[willis5]

My brother just picked one up. I am bought a 33 rnd mag from cheaper than dirt that fits glock 9mm. I think it was $54. I will let you know how it shoots after the rain stops. I will also let you know if he likes the 33 rounder.

[VanL6]

Yes, I will like to here how you guys enjoy the 33 round clip in it. I have not bought mine yet cause money has been tight for me right now. I am treating myself to a snowmobile trip of a lifetime through Yellowstone in January. I probably can not afford to pick up my Kel-tec until sometime in February.

[willis5]

Hydra shoks won't feed into the chamber. Regular UMC FMJ feed and shoot fine (accuracy not measured yet), but he says that the hydra shok bullets catch before feeding. I asked if it was the case lip between the bullet and case, and he said that it was the actual bullet??? What do you guys think?

[Savage]

willis5,
The large cavity hollowpoints are somtimes problematic in semiautos. If you want to use an expanding round, try the "power ball" or the expanding FMJ. They are specifically designed to address this problem as well as plugging. They are cheaper than Hydra Shocks too. That said, frequently after a break in period the feeding problem goes away. A little polishing of the feed ramp might solve the problem as well.
Savage

[willis5]

I was thinking about a break-in period too, but we will see. I will let him know about the power ball loads. What expanding FMJ's are you thinking about?

[Savage]

willis5,
I believe the expanding FMJ are made by Federal. Help me here guys!
Savage

[willis5]

Hmmmmm...
Ah, here is one.

http://www.outdooramericastore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=FED_PD9CSP2H

I will check on these. They will feed i think.

[Savage]

willis5,
Yep, that's the ammo, I was referring to. Thanks for the info. Looks like I was wrong about it being cheaper than the Hydra Shok------Still a good option for guns that won't feed the large cavity hollow points!
Savage

[willis5]

Savage,
Thanks! if it loads well, i don't think a few bucks will be a big deal.

He is having another delema.

The factory mag that came with the gun. when the mag is emptied by shooting, the bolt comes forward and catches on the plastic peice IN the mag that pushes the ammo up toward the chamber (when the mag is empty the plastic piece is all the way at the top) I will not see the gun myself until tuesday, so I think that this is the correct description.

the bolt does not close because of the magazine? it doesn't sound right. The base of the mag says "Glock"

[Savage]

Willis5,
Have him try another magazine. Sounds like the one he's using is faulty. If the problem presists send it back to kel tec with a good description of the problem. I have heard their factory service is first rate!
Savage

[willis5]

he doesn't have another, it only came with 1. I will try the 33 rnd-er this week.

good to hear about the service

[willis5]

the 33 round mag was a blast! I kept thinking "33 rounds is a TON of firepower!" This new mag was fine, I think he bought a new 10 rnd mag too, cause we had no problems.

[Hunter6657]

I bought one at a gunshow here In Baton Rouge for $260 out the door.Its a fun gun to shoot and is very accurate. I could use it to shoot squirrels at 25 yards. Mine takes the Glock clips and is a great little carbine to keep in the truck. It carries easy and folds away nicely. I was actually looking for the .40 version but didn't see one at the gunshow.
Check out gunbroker.com or auctionarms.com for good prices on these.
I thought they were "cheap pieces of crap" before I bought one but have since changed my thinking. If I didn't already have a Ruger PC4 in .40, I would buy another in .40 cal.  There is also a scope mount that can be put on it for those so inclined. Its my fun gun at the range and so far is more accurate than the PC carbine. That is until I can find a load that my PC likes a lot better. Get one, you'll like it. Much cheaper than the PC carbine but I like it also. I just happened to acquire a PC in a trade.