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double banded brooke
« on: April 17, 2011, 05:24:05 PM »
  well i sat down and looked at both prints, the 300 lb parrot and double banded brooke.  couldn't decide which one to build so i did what any educated man would do. ...   i flipped a coin. and the brooke one. so i have started turning a 1/6 scale brooke rifle out of some 5in steel i have. well it ends up being 1/5.9 but its close. to 1/6the scale.  i am half way through turning the out side of the gun so i am now dedicated into this gun so i have to see it through. the carriage will be interesting, i am going with the carriage that is in the plans, the wooden naval center pivot carriage. lots of parts, and details to build. but i will just finish the barrel first. I plan to do this gun with as much detail as i can handle because this one is mine and will not make another, way to much time involved in these types of builds.   god bless you guys at sea coast i can only imagine how much time you guys have in your guns.   

    and me trying to lift this steel into the lathe by myself was a little interesting.  i couldn't hold it up with one arm to get the live center in. i had to put a steel pipe on the lathe and then over my shoulder with a strap to get leverage to get the steel up high enough to get the live center in.  fun fun.

  rick Bryan
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 06:22:53 PM »
i couldn't hold it up with one arm to get the live center in. i had to put a steel pipe on the lathe and then over my shoulder with a strap to get leverage to get the steel up high enough to get the live center in.

Since I assume you aren't ready to build a travelling crane over your lathe, try an engine hoist.  If, that is, the space under the lathe is clear.   :D
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 06:29:32 PM »
yea, i have one in the other room of hte shop, but i havent raised the lathe enough to get it under the lathe. the foot break bar goes across the floor.  and i dont normally build things on this lathe this big.  but i am young and can handle a little weight.  the steel weighed about 167 lbs.  not to bad. but not light.
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 05:52:56 AM »
      Rick,   If you want to save your back a bit, then take a look at these pics.  This is the unconventional, but stable, engine hoist configuration we have used for 6 years to move our 200 to 240 Lb. steel rounds in our shop to get them on and off the lathe or rifling machine.

Tracy and Mike


The configuration.  Note that the lifting hook is in front of the wheels and frame front end to avoid hitting the lathe's emergency brake bar pedal.




A look at the bottom support structure, heavy at the back end (290 Lbs.) for counterbalance and wide at the front for stability.




The front end rotates left to snatch the Treble-Banded Brooke off the Rifling Machine when complete.




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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 06:07:23 AM »
Hey that is cool, i will have to try that. with my lift.    hey I am looking forward to seeing some pics of your brooke rifle?? and carriage??   any thing you can show us?

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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 06:17:00 AM »
     We should have a couple video clips of rifling machine operation in 2-3 days.  We are just getting back on the treble-banded Brooke cannons full time after the Krupp cash flow adventure.

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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 06:25:02 AM »
I understand that, golf ball mortars,and lead sales  have payed for most of my tooling.  i timed my lathe last night, it takes 13 mins. todo one cut down the length of the tube,   so i sit there in my chair looking over the prints for hte carriage so I hope to have them memorized by the time it comes to build it.
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 08:32:20 AM »
this thing has ended up heavier then i thought it wold have. i will have to weigh it, but it is a hoss to move around.  I hope to get started on the carriage this weekend.  I am just not sure if i am going to do the correct carriage or one in a picture that i have found where it was modified during the war  I will have to post a pic for you guys. 

  rick bryan

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here you go i found it.
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 02:46:48 PM »
Rampa Room Artillery brought this tube to the Capron NSSA shoot this last weekend. Very, very nice looking! 

This is going to be one cool gun.

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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011, 05:03:56 PM »
well i am almost done so here are some pics. 








still some fine tuning and some test fireing maybe tommarrow we will see.

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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2011, 06:38:08 PM »
Fine work Rick, I especially like the job you did on the ouside breech face radius.
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 08:40:05 AM »
     Mike and I like the Double-Banded Brooke a lot, Rick.  Even with the can there, it looks big.  Did you say 1/6 scale?  Mike guesses 65 Lbs on the tube weight; I'm thinking maybe 82 Lbs.  Are we close?  I really like the Chassis too, especially the attention to detail in the rear iron 'Bumpers' and the staggered hole pattern for the iron plates on the Chassis rails.  What are you planning to shoot from your Brooke?

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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2011, 09:40:41 AM »
Rick it's looking good will I see it next week?
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2011, 10:50:14 AM »
 yes kabar i will be up there with my stuff, let me know when you wanna come by.

  i have made a simple drop out mold in 1-3/16 by 1.7 inchs long. i have molded lead bolts from it. that i plan to try out but they might be alittle heavy.  we will see, I hope to get a chance to shoot it today or tommarrow. with some pics. because I might sell it next weekend at nationals if someone comes up with the right amount of money.
  not sure tho. i might keep this one for me.     as far as weight i wil have to weigh it.  I can tell you its around 75 lbs. for the barrel, and the carriage and rails are about 17 lbs.  not sure tho  will have to weigh it.

      this was a fun build. and plan to do a 300 lb parrot next. in 1/6 scale.  with iron carriage. like yours  but i am still have to get a milling machine to mill out the I beams.  so for now everything shall be wood carriages.

   rick bryan
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Re: double banded brooke
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2011, 11:10:21 AM »
I just wish i could have had a set of blue prints to go by for the carriage,  all i have was photos.  I didnt get a chance to take any measurements off the carriage from tredeger that is at my buddys now, he is 1.5 hours away and time ust didnt allow me to go up there, this week.    my be the next gun will be better.

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