Author Topic: Question about a cannon?  (Read 666 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline bud58

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 16
Question about a cannon?
« on: May 20, 2011, 05:02:59 AM »
Ok the barrel is 17 inches long .58 of a inch  could someone tell me  what the cal might be

Offline Double D

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12608
  • SAMCC cannon by Brooks-USA
    • South African Miniature Cannon Club
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 05:11:01 AM »
Ok the barrel is 17 inches long .58 of a inch  could someone tell me  what the cal might be

Well from what you wrote, it's .58 cal. If you give us a bunch more info we might be able to pin it down better.  Use a .570 patch ball or a .58 unpatched ball.

Offline Cat Whisperer

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7493
  • Gender: Male
  • Pulaski Coehorn Works
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 06:34:16 AM »
bud58 -

WELCOME to the board!

We'd love to see pix of it!
Tim K                 www.GBOCANNONS.COM
Cat Whisperer
Chief of Smoke, Pulaski Coehorn Works & Winery
U.S.Army Retired
N 37.05224  W 80.78133 (front door +/- 15 feet)

Offline bud58

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 16
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 06:35:54 AM »
thanks  i will try to post some pics of it . I am new this forum so it will take a bit

Offline Cat Whisperer

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7493
  • Gender: Male
  • Pulaski Coehorn Works
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 07:47:20 AM »
thanks  i will try to post some pics of it . I am new this forum so it will take a bit

That we understand!!!!
 ;)
Tim K                 www.GBOCANNONS.COM
Cat Whisperer
Chief of Smoke, Pulaski Coehorn Works & Winery
U.S.Army Retired
N 37.05224  W 80.78133 (front door +/- 15 feet)

Offline irishman

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 442
    • Brooks-USA
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 07:58:50 AM »
Welcome to the board, bud58!

Offline dominick

  • GBO Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (21)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1367
  • Gender: Male
    • Black Powder Cannons & Mortars
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 02:40:02 PM »
bud58,  Is it a smoothbore or rifled?

Offline bud58

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 16
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 03:18:16 PM »
smoothbore

Offline bud58

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 16
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 03:22:26 PM »
trying pics

Offline keith44

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2748
  • Gender: Male
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 03:36:39 PM »
How long have you had this salute cannon?
keep em talkin' while I reload
Life member NRA

Offline bud58

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 16
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 03:40:55 PM »
i made it about 30 years ago i made 6 of them gave them all away but this one

Offline Rayfan87

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 177
  • Gender: Male
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 03:44:15 PM »
What is the barrel made out of?

Offline dan610324

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2413
  • Gender: Male
  • bronze cannons and copper stills ;-))
    • dont have
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2011, 03:50:43 PM »
its things like this that makes people to make head lines in newspapers and on national television

Im so sorry but I must recomend you to find the other 5 and get them back .
those pieces are most probably very dangerous to fire

I guess the metal surrounding the chamber is less than half the bore diameter
Dan Pettersson
a swedish cannon maniac
interested in early bronze guns

better safe than sorry

Offline bud58

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 16
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2011, 04:24:17 PM »
ok one last posts  the other guns are with a blackpowder club and cant be shoot again i plug them. and this one has ben xrayed many tines over the years for cracks nothing yet and i have put a lot od rounds thought it. it is plug and pinned . its good steel i got from a gun maker that was going out.

Offline GGaskill

  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5668
  • Gender: Male
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2011, 04:54:54 PM »
Was the barrel made from a retired centerfire barrel or a new one?
GG
“If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at 40, you have no brain.”
--Winston Churchill

Offline Double D

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12608
  • SAMCC cannon by Brooks-USA
    • South African Miniature Cannon Club
Re: Question about a cannon?
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2011, 05:38:19 PM »
On this board in order to promote safety we recommend that cannons be built to at least  the minimum standards  established by the North South Skirmish Association for safe construction cannons.  Basically the barrel wall must be one caliber thick over the chamber.  So you bore diameter is .58, that means to meet minimum standards the diameter of your barrel over the breech should 1.74 inches

There is a standard guideline for center-fire smokeless rifle gun barrels made of the appropriate steel.  The chamber wall is supposed to be no less than 2/3 of the chamber diameter thick.  If you barrel is an old 58 caliber barrel it is an old muzzle-loading barrel.  Most of those are not made to the standards required for high pressures barrels.

Her is my concern about you barrel.  The breech plug.  How was it made and installed.  I would like to see some xrays of that breech plug.

We here are all concerned about safety.  If you are offended by that we say, we are sorry, but we won't compromise safety.

Your comments to the effect that you have been shooting it for years with out any problems, is the standard phrase used in just about every cannon failure accident we have seen reported...

I suggest you clean this gun up and put it  up on the shelf for retirement.   We can help you build your next cannon.