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Fast & Furious..meant to end 2nd Amendment?
« on: June 16, 2011, 04:46:47 PM »
Were Projects Gunrunner and Fast & Furious really meant to track weapons from dealers into the hands of the drug cartels of Mexico? Think about it. The excuse the DOJ and BATFE are clinging to is that the weapons were allowed to "walk" so they could be tracked and used to make a bust on the major players in drug and weapons trafficing in Mexico.
There are only two problems with that excuse.
One, neither the BATFE nor the DOJ have any powers to arrest anyone inside Mexico.
Two, the Mexican government was kept totally uninformed that these operations were going on.
Does that sound like they had any future arrests planned? It doesn't to me. Besides, Asst. Attorney General Welch absolutely denied that the BATFE had any connection to any weapons being deliberately allowed to cross the border when he was first confronted by CBS News. Not a "I can't discuss this" or "That's a classified operation", but outright denial.

What if this was a plan by the current administration and the DOJ and BATFE to provide further evidence of what they were claiming last year; that the majority of weapons used by the drug cartels are from the US and thereby inciting fear and justifying the passing of the "gun show loophole" and "end private sales" legislation that folks like Shumer, Feinstein, Wasserman and McCarthy have been pushing for over a year and are still promoting? Is it just coincidence that at the exact same time that Project Gunrunner and Fast & Furious are happening President Obama is publicly siding with President Calderon of Mexico to both end the flow of weapons into Mexico AND curtail any actions of the States (like Arizona) to enforce illegal immigration laws?
One thing must be taken into consideration. Holder was part of the Janet Reno led DOJ during the Waco incident and, to this day, we have never learned the truth about what happened. However, do you remember the call to arms of the anti-gun lobby immediately afterward?

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Re: Fast & Furious..meant to end 2nd Amendment?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 05:01:26 PM »
i think  it  to support  this   UN treaty

this  is something that needs not be taken  lightly

http://patricksperry.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/behind-the-scenes-obama-continues-pushing-un-gun-control-treaty/

THIS  IS PROBLY  OUR GREATEST THREAT

remember  obama  has signed treaties to have foreign troops  on  OUR  soil
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Fast & Furious..meant to end 2nd Amendment?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 07:29:19 AM »
Exactly. The UN Small Arms Treaty and the 2nd Amendment are incompatible. Senators Shumer, Feinstein and Whitehouse are still using the data from last year that "proved" the weapons the drug cartels were using were largely coming from the US even though that data has been disputed and even shown to be in error due to the way it was collected based only on those weapons the Mexican govt already had evidence that they came from the US.
Rep. Wasserman, in her acceptance of the DNC position, called for the passage of legislation because of the shooting of Rep. Gifford in Arizona while making no mention of the two Customs Agents killed and one wounded by weapons supplied by the BATFE and DOJ thru Projects Gunrunner and Fast & Furious.
At the same time, these individuals are totally ignoring the investigations into the actions of the BATFE and DOJ and refusing to participate in the investigations. Further firearms legislation is just one small step away from ratification of the UN treaty.

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Re: Fast & Furious..meant to end 2nd Amendment?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 07:52:40 AM »
do  you think  obumer and the democrats  are ''globalist''??

obumer and the justice dept  allowed/encouraged  these  sales  to proove  there lies

AND  THE PLAN  BACK FIRED



my  understaning  most illegal ARs in mexico  come from army deserters  and

the  AK 47s   are full auto black market romainian
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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Re: Fast & Furious..meant to end 2nd Amendment?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 07:56:47 AM »
Do I believe they are globalist? Globalist, Marxist, Socialist, Ruling Elite....it does not matter. What I believe is that their intentions are not in the best interest of the American people.

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Re: Fast & Furious..meant to end 2nd Amendment?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 03:11:52 PM »
I believe that the idiot-in-chief and his doj had full knowledge of what happened.
this prez is communist to the bone.
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Re: Fast & Furious..meant to end 2nd Amendment?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 03:13:05 PM »
The leadership of both parties are globalist.  A majority of both parties not in leadership positions are also globalist. 
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