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"Good News for Alabama"
« on: June 09, 2011, 06:27:02 PM »
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Alabama vaulted past Arizona on Thursday with what is being called the most restrictive law in the nation against illegal immigration, requiring schools to find out if students are in the country lawfully and making it a crime to knowingly give an illegal immigrant a ride.

Advocacy groups promised to challenge the sweeping measure, which like Arizona's law also allows police to arrest anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant if the person is stopped for some other reason. In addition, it requires all businesses to check the legal status of workers using a federal system called E-Verify.

"It is clearly unconstitutional. It's mean-spirited, racist, and we think a court will enjoin it," said Mary Bauer, legal director for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

It takes effect Sept. 1.

Republican Gov. Robert Bentley, who signed it into law Thursday, expressed confidence it would withstand any legal challenges.

"We have a real problem with illegal immigration in this country," he said. "I campaigned for the toughest immigration laws, and I'm proud of the Legislature for working tirelessly to create the strongest immigration bill in the country."

Alabama has an estimated 120,000 illegal immigrants, a nearly fivefold increase from a decade ago, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. Many of them are believed to be working on farms, at chicken processing plants and in construction.

One of the legislation's sponsors, GOP Sen. Scott Beason, said it would help the unemployed by preventing illegal immigrants from getting jobs in the state. Alabama's unemployment rate stood at 9.3 percent in April, the most recent figure available.

"This will put thousands of Alabamians back in the work force," Beason said.

The Alabama Business Council has not taken a public stand on the law. In neighboring Georgia, some farmers and business owners warned that a crackdown passed recently in that state would make it more difficult to hire the laborers they rely on — many of whom are illegal immigrants.

The Alabama measure instantly puts the state at the forefront of the immigration debate. Organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union and the Southern Poverty Law Center agreed that it is the nation's toughest crackdown on illegal immigration.

Linton Joaquin, general counsel for the National Immigration Law Center in Los Angeles, said the Alabama law covers all aspects of an immigrant's life.

"It is a sweeping attack on immigrants and people of color in general. It adds restrictions on education, housing and other areas. It is a very broad attack," Joaquin said.

Among other things, the law makes it a crime for landlords to knowingly rent to an illegal immigrant.

Another provision makes it a crime to transport a known illegal immigrant. Arizona's law appears narrower: It includes language against human smuggling and makes it illegal to pick up laborers for work if doing so impedes traffic.

Alabama's law also goes further in requiring schools to check the immigration status of their students. The measure does not prohibit illegal immigrants from attending public schools; lawmakers said the purpose instead is to gather data on how many are enrolled and how the much the state is spending to educate them.

Jared Shepherd, an attorney for the ACLU, warned that because of that provision, some immigrant parents may not send their children to school for fear of arrest or deportation.

Activists such as Shay Farley, legal director of Alabama Appleseed, an immigrant advocacy group, said the bill invites racial profiling not only by law enforcement officers but by landlords and employers.

"It's going to make us profile our neighbors and our church brothers and sisters," Farley said.

Alabama's Hispanic population more than doubled between 2000 and 2010 to 186,000, or 3.9 percent of the state's nearly 4.8 million people, according to the Census.

Some farmers and other small businesses had hoped to be exempted from having to verify the immigration status of employees, fearing the database would be too costly and add too much red tape. Georgia's law, by contrast, exempts businesses with fewer than 10 employees.

Alabama's measure was modeled on Arizona's. A federal judge blocked the most controversial parts of Arizona's law last year after the Justice Department sued.

That includes the provision that required police to check people's immigration status while enforcing other laws if there was reason to believe the person was in the country illegally. The case appears headed for the U.S. Supreme Court.

A less restrictive law in Utah also was blocked after a lawsuit was filed. Civil liberties groups have sued to stop Georgia's law as well.
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 09:32:42 AM »
Thanks for posting that. I read it in the paper but didn't have a link. I reckon the obamination will sue Alabama too now. GOOOOOOO ALABAMA. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 06:09:52 AM »
Good for Alabama! Just wish more states would have the gumption to pass laws like this.
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 11:10:14 AM »
Since it doesn't go in effect 'til Sept there is plenty of time to find an "activist court and judge" It will be blocked, you can bet on it.
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 12:57:59 PM »
Since it doesn't go in effect 'til Sept there is plenty of time to find an "activist court and judge" It will be blocked, you can bet on it.

Not as many of those down this way. I'd not bet on it getting blocked that way.


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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 01:35:16 PM »
Bad news for Kentucky. The news has been reporting that as soon as word got out illegals started migrating to Ky from AL. The same thing happened in CO a few years ago. They were leaving by the bus loads to go to a friendlier state.
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 07:20:21 AM »
Bad news for Kentucky. The news has been reporting that as soon as word got out illegals started migrating to Ky from AL. The same thing happened in CO a few years ago. They were leaving by the bus loads to go to a friendlier state.


We tried to pass an illegal criminal bill here in Ky too, not sure if it passed. The dems and media were making it out as terribly racist. The lou news kept featuring POOR illegal criminals that would be affected. If the media can find em, the law should be able to. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 09:10:58 AM »
Since it doesn't go in effect 'til Sept there is plenty of time to find an "activist court and judge" It will be blocked, you can bet on it.

Not as many of those down this way. I'd not bet on it getting blocked that way.

 
 Bill,that brings up a question that has been on my mind for some time. Why do the various Fed Courts have jurisdaction in other States. The one that comes foremost to my mind is the one in San Fransisco which is about as "activist" as it can get. One of the most favorite Courts that the Left goes to. They have ruled on cases that were outside of CA before unless I'm  mistaken. :-\
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 10:34:38 AM »
Bad news for Kentucky. The news has been reporting that as soon as word got out illegals started migrating to Ky from AL. The same thing happened in CO a few years ago. They were leaving by the bus loads to go to a friendlier state.


We tried to pass an illegal criminal bill here in Ky too, not sure if it passed. The dems and media were making it out as terribly racist. The lou news kept featuring POOR illegal criminals that would be affected. If the media can find em, the law should be able to. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
powderman when they pull out the race card then you know that is all they got!!
Enough illegals still didn`t leave CO because they are still commiting crimes and with the two layered justice system that exist here alot of them get a free pass where as John Q. Citizen would be thrown under the jail!!
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 01:06:49 PM »
I'm not sure the number but I think there are perhaps 12 US District Courts. The one that covers CA also covers OR and WA and a few others in that area. Yes they are notoriously liberal as are the states they cover.

Their rulings are really binding on other districts like Supreme court rulings are. They do set precedent but other districts aren't bound by them. Often two district courts will rule differently on an issue and when they do that issue will amost always wind up in the Supreme court for the issue to be decided.

The district court that covers Alabama really has only a few liberal pockets like Atlanta and south Florida so for the most part the rulings aren't that liberal and reflect more closely the conservative values of the majority of folks who live here. That is not to say they never get out in left field just not so often.


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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 10:34:23 AM »
I'm rootin' for Bama and Arizona and any other State that wants to stop the horde crashing through the Border.
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 02:58:01 PM »
off topic but of interest.    a local TV newsman was in south georgia interviewing the mexican foreman on a truck farm where he pointed out how hard his mexican crew was working.
then he pointed to group of black workers and said "all they do is sit"
this was yesterday and IIRC it was channel 11 in atlanta.
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Re: "Good News for Alabama"
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2011, 04:37:25 AM »
That TV dude is history, how dare he !!
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