Win. ammo from Wal Mart!!!!!

[Wyo. Coyote Hunter]

   I bought one of those 555 packs of Win. ammo from Wal Mart on my way home from vacation..figured I would shoot it up at rocks, gophers, starlings, etc. in my old 5 screw K 22.. I must have shot about 50 rounds, when I went to clean a bunch of pistols and rifles this eve..when I went to whip out the K, there was rough area pushing the dry patch though the  barrel just before it cleared the barrel...When I looked down the bore, a thick circle of black crud encircled the area where the bullet first enters the barrel...I couldn't believe it...I felt a few quick passes with solvent and a wire brush would solve the problem....it didn't I got some of this stuff out, but it still had a build up of crud...I tried all my usual tricks..even JB Bore paste would not eliminate this stuff....I got some out , but not all finally after trying Bore Teck, I wiped it with Rem. oil and left the patch stuck in the area of crud on the ram rod....When I finally went back and took the patch out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! most of this junk was gone..I have more oil in the bore now, but I NEVER ran into this before...Anyone else have this problem???  Once years ago, I bought a bunch of WW .22 shells that were lead, no copper..they caused my single six to lead to the point it was inaccurate, but it cleaned out quickly with a brush...I never ran into this before....

[Graybeard]

I suspect most of it was there before you shot the Winchester ammo. Back in my competition shooting days I bought the Winchester ammo by the case (5000 rounds) and cleaned my barrels ONLY if accuracy dropped off. That meant thousands of rounds usually between cleanings and never a problem. We shot mostly Winchester me the plated bullet and my friend Billy Doss mostly use the Winchester Wildcat that wasn't plated. We could never see any difference in performance.

[mechanic]

I agree with Bill.  I like that ammo so much I gave all my other to the grandkids to pop up, and bought several thousand rounds of it.  I've shot it by the hundreds in several different guns with no issues, and excellent accuracy.  And unlike some bulk pack ammo, no misfires at all.

Ben

[Wyo. Coyote Hunter]

  I keep this K very clean...I dont wire brush it often but wipe out the bore after each shooting session unless I plan to shoot again the next day...What do you think this junk was? I never had anything so tough to get out of a 22.....

[Old Griz]

I'm gabberflasted. I've had dirty ammo before, but usually Remington. Never had any problems with Winchester.

[Wyo. Coyote Hunter]

   Yesterday after cleaning up the K again, I shot about 60 rounds of Fed. wal-mart specials though the old revolver...clean as a hounds tooth after wiping would with some solvent..gamethe WW ammo to a pal to try...Griz, I have had excellent luck with Rem. bulk ammo, the guy I gave the WW stuff to uses the bulk Rem..mostly..he loves it..so it goes..one guy has great luck with something and the next one has trouble...I have never had problems with WW .22 ammo in the more expensive grades..just the Wal Mart stuff...could happen in other brands, but I haven't run into that yet...

[NickSS]

I have been using that ammo for a couple of years now ever since I found that my 22 silhouette rifle likes it so I use it for practice ammo out to 200 yards to the tune of several hundred rounds per week.  I clean my rifle once a year whether it needs it or not and have never done more than run one patch with solvent and one dry patch down the bore.  I am of the opinion that over cleaning ruins more 22s that shooting them does.

[Savage]

Haven't had any problems with the WW bulk pack ammo either. Back when rimfire ammo was scarce, the WW was all I could get. I put maybe 3000 rds downrange through my plate pistols with no problems. A quick pass with a bore snake is all I ever do on a .22 bore. I agree with Nick, most rimfire bores and chambers are damaged by "Cleaning" than shooting.
Savage

[Jim_Ole_Timer]

I'm guessing your crud ring is simply un burt powder, and its unburned because the bullet may be undersized allowing hot gases to escape around it thus leaving the ring. It won't hurt anything, just clean it out with a good solvent applied to a bronze bore brush. Butch's is one of the best. The key ingrediant is ammonia. Or you can make your own out of GM Top Engine cleaner mised 4 parts to one part janitor strength ammonia. I've been making this stuff for years and used it in competition shooting, works good and is quite cheap to make. Just keep it in a good plastic bottle with a squeeze spout and keep it closed when not using. You can clean the bo0re cleaner out with rubbing alcohol whicl also cleanes out any left over powder residue.

[Wyo. Coyote Hunter]

Jim, thanks for the tip..I got the K cleaned, and used Fed. ammo with out a hitch...Gave the rest of the box to my pal, told him the difficulty and if he wanted to give it a try it was his...Have been camping for 10 days, and just got home...had a call from him about the WW ammo...all he said was this stuff SUCKS...and he would give me more info..later...so it was the ammo, for what ever reason..and it was a bugger to clean..never had a .22 that screwed up by 50 rounds...