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Offline Original Ken

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« on: January 14, 2004, 03:39:14 AM »
OK it was a belated Christmas gift to myself but I just got a Springfield Armory V-12 Target in stainless.  The V-12 full-size 45 ACP that has the ported barrel and slide.  After cleaning up all of the factory grease and oil it is now ready to go to the range.  I know that Springfield will not recommend any form of handloads to be used in their guns because of the liability situation.  I did not receive any recoil spring info with the gun.  Springfield says that they recommend only factory ammo and it should be 230 gn hardball.  Some of the guys in my club have Springers also but not this particular model and I know they load their own and shoot either lead or jacketed or hardball.  Does anyone have any recommendations on what type of handloads would work best with this particular gun.  My old Colt 45 will eat about anything you toss into it from 185 lead SWC and 200 lead SWC up through hardball.  Just have to toy with the recoil spring to prevent battering of the slide and frame.  I want to break this gun in right so any tips you can give me would be most appreciated.  I have some loads on hand that are 200 lead SWC and they have 3.5 grains of Bullseye and also some with 4.2 grains of Red Dot.  The Red Dot naturally is the heavier of the two loads.  Any help you can toss my way for break in would be appreciated.  Thanks. much.

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2004, 04:21:09 AM »
If it were mine, I'd treat it like any other 1911. Do an initial clean/lube, take it to the range and put at least 200rds of hardball thru it. I then field strip it and look for drag/wear marks. If there are any maching burrs left they will be easy to locate and remove. Clean the barrel thoroughly, plug the chamber, prop the barrel up chamber down, and mil-tec the devil out of it from the muzzle allowing the mil-tec to coat the inside of the barrel. It helps if you can heat the barrel to about 200 degrees with a heat gun or something. I have inverted a glass jar over the upright barrel and left it in the sun on a warm day. This operation will make the barrel easier to clean in the future. Use a good synthetic grease on the rails and anywhere there's drag marks. Then I shoot anything I want in them. Your compensator will make cleaning more of a chore with lead bullets, but they won't hurt the gun. All manufactures have the disclamer on reloaded ammo for liability and warranty. I shoot lead in all my guns, no way I could afford all that factory ammo! Enjoy your Springer.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2004, 05:17:00 AM »
Ooooooooo, nice Christmas present Ken.  Question is though, didja treat Moma at least as good as you treated yourself, hmmmmmmmm?????  Sorry, just being a bugger (LOL).  

Savage has some good suggestions.  I too would treat it just like any other 45.  But, for loads, I am a hardball kinda guy and prefer that or a reloaded equivalent, be it cast or jacketed.  

I would break the gun in as Savage suggested - I do that with all my autos - take at least 200 rounds to the range and break it in.  Then, however, and because I usually stick with hardball, I stuff it with a 22 lb recoil spring kit from Wolfe.  Liability statements aside, you should be able to shoot cast without any problems what so ever.  My only thought is that you might pick up some lead deposits in the barrel ports if you shoot some of the softer cast bullets but if you shoot hard cast you should not have any problems at all.  

My younger brother is finally giving up the ghost on his 9mm and trading it for a 45.  Only problem is that he doesn't quite yet know which one he wants.  He shoots little but carries a lot, so I have thought that a lightweight Commander length might be to his liking.  I'm trying to orient him to Springfield but he keeps talking Kimber.  So, we'll have to see what different models they may or may not sell and then select from the maker who makes what he wants.  I know Springfield makes a lightweight but I don't know what they call it.

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2004, 06:26:37 AM »
Hey guys thanks for the info on the Springer!!!  At the risk of sounding totally on Mars what exactly is mil-tec and where do you find it.  A couple of people told me to use Break Clean Blaster on the barrel after break in.  Don't know about that one.  Also what kind of of slide lube would work best.  I have a friend who was a Seal for 21 years and he said all they were ever issued was Break Clean oil and it worked fine on all his slides.
Mikey:  Yeah I got the Springer and Momma got new living room furniture, area rugs and windw coverings!!!  I think I got the short end of the stick with that deal but at least I got my Springer.  Will have to let you guys know how the ports on the barrel work out once I go to hard cast lead SWCutters.  I might just get a different powder measure and buy the hardball bullets and just shoot the gun as a hardball gun especially if I find any FTF's or FTE's with the lower target loads.  I agree with Savage and I can't affort to shoot factory ammo all the time.  Otherwise I could change recoil springs but I worry about slide and frame battering if the combo isn't just right.  Let me know what you think of the items I am asking about.  Yeah Mikey, why the hell would anyone from the Hundred and Worst listen to a Seal anyway!!!!  Thanks again.

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2004, 08:07:03 AM »
Ken,
I was being lazy with the spelling, it's actually "Militec 1." Lots of tech data out there on the testing of the product. A quick search will provide all you need to know. I use 1XR synthetic grease, I find it in automotive at Wal Mart. It works as good as any other I have tried.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2004, 10:02:27 AM »
Hay Ken:  regarding the Christmas presents to your wife, I doubt you got the short end of the deal - she just doesn't know it yet and I'll take your secret to the grave with me.  It's the least I can do for a fellow paratrooper.  

Seals - oh yeah.  Used to teach them how to jump from airplanes, but they sure looked funny trying to jump out the door with those flippers on.  And why do we listen to them - it's sort of like listening for the barnyard chicken that clucks the most 'cause that's the one you're gonna invite for dinner.  You're just being polite my friend, 'cause seals ARE a part of the food chain ya know (LOL)... :-D

Ken, either of the lubes mentioned will work just fine on your Springfield.  The Break Clean Oil recommended by your Seal friend is excellent stuff, as is Savage's synthetic grease as well as the Miltec1, if you can find it.  Also, there are lubes specifically made for stainless steels and possibly one of the other responders can list some of them out.  

As for your recoil spring situation - if the factory recommends 230 gn ball, then the recoil spring should be able to properly cycle the pistol for about 5K rounds before you might need to replace it.  I would use it for the initial break in then stuff it with something heavier and keep using that one as long as you don't suffer FTE or FTF.  Mikey.

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2004, 05:15:13 AM »
Ken--I've had a v-12 for 3 years---and decided 230 gr. ammo was boring-----sooooo----I put a 22lb. recoil spring and a tungston Comminoli Frame Saver guide rod in it and it became a 45 Super----45 Super brass from Starline with 10.2 gr. of Power Pistol pushind a 200gr.Hornaday XTP at 1250 fps and accurate enough at 50 yds to hunt deer and hogs---- :grin: lot's of fun!!!   pg
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